Two party conference reviews for the price of one. Felicity and James are joined by BBC Wales Westminster correspondent Shelley Phelps and the shadow cabinet member and Torfaen MP Nick Thomas-Symonds to look back at Labour in Liverpool. Plus political correspondent Daniel Davies and Dwyfor Meirionnydd MS Mabon ap Gwynfor on Plaid Cymru's Autumn get-together in Aberystwyth.