Given the political environment, the momentum from the speaker fight, and the new agreement on sharing power with the Freedom Caucus, we now have some tools to fight. But outcomes are not guaranteed. We are joined today by North Carolina Rep. Dan Bishop, one of the lead negotiators of the agreement, who offers a sobering and balanced view on the outcome of the McCarthy fight. He observes that we now have momentum against those in the party who operate out of fear, but we still haven’t reached the promised land. He explains the importance of the rules changes and committee structures, but notes that it will take conservative outsiders to provide a lot of the intellectual firepower and focus needed to push these members into action. 

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