An Australian writer tells us about his early graffiti writing experiences. We talk about why he thought shoplifting didn't feel right, why being discreet can help avoid being arrested and other graffiti related subjects.

This podcast is not for the usual Banksy book reading street art fan, it's about letter based graffiti writing. But if you like street art, then you'll probably want to learn more about graffiti culture, because that's where street art began.

Join us for a not to serious conversation about writing on things, it's mother loving Toy Division.

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Podcast logo photograph by Alex Bartsch: http://www.alexbartsch.com/

All background music Dj Frenic and George B from This One Records (http://www.thisonerecords.com/)