Father James Kubicki, SJ joined Patrick for a conversation about consolations and desolations in prayer. Topics included: St. Ignatius & discernment (4:17), desolations (12:26), caller: discerning spirits in art (18:35), caller: when we have consolations we have desolations to earthly things (23:43), caller: God's will in my work (26:39), email: how do I trust God more? (32:56), caller: consolation in the Eucharist (35:35), consolations vs. spiritual high (40:24), and caller: I love Fr. Kubicki's reflections! (44:07).