Not since Thomas Jefferson podcasting alone has a guest been so wise as Yuval Levin, who joins Jonah Goldberg to discuss the recent trend of Lebowskian communication mishaps, the danger of obsessive abstraction in Trumpian times, and the promise of connecting with the median voter.

Show Notes:

—The Atlantic: "Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans"

—Yuval on "The Ezra Klein Show"

—Yoni Appelbaum on The Remnant

—National Review: "Look on My Works, Ye Mighty, and Despair!"

—Yuval for The Free Press

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