Dr. Daniel George is Professor of Medicine and Surgery, Director of GU Oncology for the Duke Cancer Institute, and Co-Chair of the DCI Center for Prostate and Urologic Cancers. Dr George’s primary areas of interest are in drug development and optimizing care for patients with GU cancers, particularly prostate and kidney cancers. In this week's episode, Dr. George presents two contrasting cases with nephrectomy as a possible treatment path. Can you determine the best course of treatment for each patient?

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Welcome to the ASCO University Weekly Podcast. My name is Dr. Daniel George. And I'm a professor of medicine and surgery at Duke University. I'm also the director of GU oncology at the Duke Cancer Institute and co-chair of the DCI Center for Prostate and Neurologic Cancers.

Today we'll discuss two similar cases of patients presenting with metastatic renal cell carcinoma in our multidisciplinary management options. Without any standard screening procedures, 20% to 30% of kidney cancer patients today present with metastatic disease. Historically, debulking nephrectomy has been our standard of care. And this has been based on old trials from the interferon era of treatments.

Since then, many drugs have been approved for the management of patients with metastatic renal cell carcinoma, many of which have improved the progression free survival and overall survival of patients with metastatic disease, which may have had an impact on the landscape and role for debulking nephrectomy.

Furthermore, metastatic kidney cancer patients can be risk stratified. There's a number of criteria used. But historically the most commonly used criteria has been the Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center criteria. Which included five factors, including KPS score less than 70, a calcium score greater than 10, A serum hemoglobin of less than the lower limit of normal, and LDH greater than 1.5 times the upper limit of normal, or having their primary tumor in place, meaning no prior nephrectomy.

If patients had zero of these factors they were considered good risk with the best survival. Patients with one or two of these factors are considered intermediate risk. And patients with three or more of these factors historically have been very poor risk, with median survivals of six months or less.

The Carmena Study was a prospective, multi-center, randomized, non inferiority trial comparing upfront nephrectomy followed by sunitinib therapy, compared to upfront sunitinib therapy alone in patients with metastatic renal cell carcinoma amenable to cytoreductive nephrectomy.

We'll get to these results in a moment. But the study population included, importantly, patients with e cog performance status zero or one. And 40% plus of these patients were considered poor risk, with the average sum of metastatic tumor burden being greater than five centimeters.

So now, let's get to some modern cases. The first case we'll discuss is George. He's an 83-year-old man who presented with gross hematuria and a hemoglobin of 13.8 in the normal range. A CT scan revealed an eight centimeter right renal mass and multiple pulmonary mets, up to two centimeters in size.
His e cog performance status is zero. And his calcium was 8.4, and LDH was normal as well.

Our second case, for comparison, is Philip, a 76-year-old man who was found to have a 16 centimeter left renal mass incidentally on a spine MRI. This was confirmed by CT scan, along with some pulmonary nodules measuring up to 1.8 centimeters, as well as enlarged mediastinal lymph nodes up to two centimeters, and an eight millimeter liver lesion. His calcium score was 10.4. And his hemoglobin was 12.5, which was below the limit of normal. He had a normal LDH and an absolutely zero performance status.

So for these two cases, we have four choices. The first choice is for both cases a nephrectomy followed by systemic treatment, our historical approach. The second is systemic therapy first, with plus or minus a subsequent nephrectomy for both cases.

Our third choice would be to treat case number one with a nephrectomy, followed by systemic therapy, and case number two with systemic therapy first. And our fourth option would be systemic therapy first for case one and a nephrectomy first for case two.
Now, to me, when I look at these cases, the correct answer is three. Nephrectomy first for case one, and systemic therapy first for case two. Let me explain.

Even though these cases are fairly similar in age, gender, performance status, and had the presence of a large primary tumor, for case one this is an intermediate risk patient. This patient has lung only disease that's relatively low volume, a good performance status, and normal labs. In addition, he's symptomatic with gross hematuria. For these reasons, a debulking nephrectomy is really indicated. And because of his good performance status, he's very likely to recover well from the surgery, despite the fact that he's 83 years old.

Case two is subtly different. This is actually a poor risk patient. Even though his e cog performance status is zero, he has an elevated calcium, a decreased hemoglobin, and he's got his primary tumor still in place. That puts him into a poor risk category. And some of these patients never recover from surgery well enough to get systemic therapy.

He also has multi organ involvement, involving his lungs and nodes, and possibly even his liver. This is a patient that really mirrors the patient population of Carmena. Based upon this, I think systemic therapy first is a reasonable treatment option for this patient.
If we actually look at the results of Carmena, the study confirmed that sunitinib therapy alone, systemic therapy, was non inferior, and actually trended towards improved survival compared to cytoreductive nephrectomy followed by sunitinib.

The results suggest that for poor risk or for high volume metastatic patients, that systemic therapy first should be the standard of care.
But, importantly, not included in a Carmena study were patients that had low volume metastatic disease and intermediate risk features, or good prognosis. These patients not included in the Carmena study might still benefit first from a debulking or cytoreductive nephrectomy.

So thank you for listening to this week's episode of the ASCO University Weekly Podcast. For more information on the role of cytoreductive nephrectomy, including additional patient cases and opportunities for self-evaluation, visit the Comprehensive eLearning Center at university.asco.org.

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