From where we sit it looks like Donald Trump is ramping up his war on criticism of his handling of the Covid-19 pandemic, rather than ramping up his governments response to it. So to get a better insight into these events we were delighted to be joined from Maryland via zoom by journalist and writer with the intercept, Jon Schwarz.

We discuss both the bizarre Trump Presidency, the current economic and societal situation in the US, the upcoming Presidential election and the very real worries we should all share about the future of American democracy.

Check out Jon's work on theintercept.com and find him on twitter @schwarz

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