In part 2 of our conversation, Stan talks about a race horse he had named Distant Wind. He also talks about his sobriety and how God helped and continues to help him stay sober. If you haven't had a chance to listen to part 1, head over and give that one a listen first.

When asked about some of the best cowboys Ed Ashurst has ever been around, he mentioned Bill Howell. When talking about Bill he said, "...the best cowboy I ever knew, all things considered.... He was an artist at working cattle. Big bunches of cattle.... And I worked for him for 15 years. And if I'm a cow man, it's because of him." Throughout this episode, we talk about working cattle in the traditional way, what Ed's definition of a cowboy is, and some of the challenges he faces. His advice to future generations is to, "Have faith in God, pray a lot, and fight government intervention."

Jim and his wife Kerri live in Safford, AZ. Jim will be 81 years old in August and has lived a life that many won't ever get the chance to. As a child, he ran away from home the first day his family moved to the Grand Canyon. He ended up at the mule barns and the rest is history. He has worked on several different ranches in a couple different states. Later on in his life, he suffered an injury from a horse wreck which led him to different employment. He was a sheriff and eventually a Justice of the Peace. Jim can remember shoeing horses for $5 a head and when asked what advice he has for the future generations he said, "Get out. Learn how to work. Do chores. Go to church."