Crafty Brewers: Tales Behind Craft Beer

Learn how Revolution Brewing grew from a small brewery to Illinois’ largest independently-owned brewery — and what makes their beer so special.

03:51 Beer Myth: Do all yeasts ferment the same way? Katherine challenges the idea that top fermenting and bottom fermenting yeasts function in the same way. Learn what yeasts actually do and the role they play in the fermentation process.

09:03 Revolution Brewing Interview: David Blackford, Lead Brewer at Revolution Brewing, explains the difference between a head brewer and a lead brewer, reminisces about his first impressions of Revolution Brewing and the first beer he ever got to work on, and discusses the development of signature beers like Eugene Porter and Anti-Hero, his journey from a packaging specialist to lead brewer, and what it was like for the brewery to transition from a small brewery to a large-scale operation, including the use of new technology like centrifuges to increase production capacity.

Then, David talks about Revolution’s latest favorite, the Cold Time Lager, and explores the growing trend of lighter, less complicated beers making a comeback, emphasizing the appreciation for quality brewing with fewer ingredients. David and Katherine discuss the difficulty (and fun!) of naming beers before Cody jumps in with questions about Revolution’s Deep Wood Series of barrel-aged beers, including what inspired Revolution to release such high ABV beers year-round. The discussion also touches on memorable yet discontinued brews, such as the Bottom Up Wit, discussing its unique qualities and why it's no longer a staple despite its popularity. David also clarifies the differences between Wit wheat beers and Hefeweizens, focusing on yeast's role in defining their distinct flavors. 

53:56 Beer Behavior: What’s up with hop waters? David discusses the intricacies and challenges of making hop water, a non-alcoholic beverage gaining popularity among beer enthusiasts, including insights into their process for creating Super Zero. He discusses the benefits of hop water as a non-alcoholic alternative that allows breweries to showcase their craftsmanship, its role as an excellent palate cleanser at beer festivals like FOBAB, and its versatile suitability for various settings, from work lunches to outdoor activities. 

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About Revolution Brewing: Revolution is Illinois' largest independently-owned brewery. Learn more on their website at https://revbrew.com/ 

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Crafty Brewers is produced by award-winning podcaster Cody Gough. He insists that we tell you that in this episode, you’ll learn about: craft beer, Chicago breweries, fermentation science, ale yeast, lager yeast, craft brewing trends, hop water, craft beer industry, beer fermentation, top fermenting yeast, bottom fermenting yeast, signature beers, Eugene Porter, Anti-Hero IPA, Big Star, brewing challenges, beer naming, hop trends, brewing stories, craft beer community, beer recipes, craft beer collaborations, hop waters, non-alcoholic beer, brewing innovation, fermentation process, beer myths, Chicago craft beer, beer quality checks, beer technology, centrifuges in brewing, and year-round barrel-aged beers.

Learn how Old Irving became so successful, it needed to open a new production facility — and what went into the expansion.

02:18 Beer Myth: When brewing sour beers, is kettle souring lazy? Katherine has some HOT TAKES about this, and Trevor from Old Irving Brewing Co. explains the science behind what actually creates sour beers. Discover the facts behind this common misconception and learn how kettle souring is a legitimate and skillful method that produces some of the best-tasting sours. Bonus: learn how a “West Coast Pilsner” is different from a regular Pilsner and what it has to do with a thing known as a Cold IPA.

10:08 NAME OF BREWERY: Old Irving Brewing Co. Head Brewer and Co-Founder Trevor Rose-Hamblin shares the back story of his move from restauranteur to brewer, including an appearance on BrewDog that led to him brewing in Scotland for 3 months. Trevor also explains how after just 2 years of development, his Citra & Mosaic hopped Hazy IPA Beezer won a gold medal at the Great American Beer Festival in 2019 and another gold at the World Beer Cup in Las Vegas in 2024 (both in the Hazy IPA category). 

After the beer break, Trevor and Brian crack open a Della, which won a silver medal at the Great American Beer Festival in 2021 in the German-Style Kölsch category. Della is a Kölsch-Style Ale brewed with high-quality Pilsner, a touch of Vienna malt, and lightly hopped with Zuper Saazer, Hallertau Mittelfrüh, & Tettnang. Trevor also talks about Old Irving’s new brewing facility, what compelled them to move into a new facility, and the craft beer community in Chicago that helped spur their growth. Brian also coaxes Trevor into doing his hilarious impersonation of one of his Chicago craft beer community colleagues (but you’ll have to listen to find out which one!).

58:35 Beer Behavior: How does scarcity work when it comes to beer? Does it drive sales even when it’s obviously manufactured? Brian talks about how Wisconsin breweries were featured during a recent convention and Katherine presents her “barbecue festival philosophy” of scarcity.

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About Old Irving Brewing Co: Located in the Irving Park neighborhood of Chicago, Illinois, the brewers behind Old Irving Brewing Co. were brewing in their garage with aspirations of crafting beer for their local community all the way back in 2014, two years before they opened their doors. Today, they’ve created hundreds of ales and lagers—earning a few GABF and World Beer Cup medals along the way—and now distribute their beers throughout Illinois and Wisconsin. Learn more on their website at https://oldirvingbrewing.com/ 

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Crafty Brewers is produced by award-winning podcaster Cody Gough. He insists that we tell you that in this episode, you’ll learn about: Chicago craft beer, craft beer scene, award-winning beers, West Coast Pilsner, Cinnamon Prost, Hazy IPA, Beezer IPA, Great American Beer Fest, brewing techniques, Pipeworks collaboration, BrewDog Scotland, Flossmoor Station, Home brewing, Craft beer myths, Beer trends, Moto Restaurant, brewery expansion, collaborative brewing, beer labeling, Lagers popularity, brewing science, brewing process, Omega Yeast Labs, Chicago's best beers, craft brewing success, brewing industry, culinary arts to brewing, beer production, and Chicago beer landmarks.

Explore bitter beers with Midwest Coast, including ESBs, English Pale Ales, and IPAs that cater to evolving palates.

01:48 Beer Myth: What’s a “girly drink” when it comes to beers? Katherine and Brian and their guests shatter the myth that some beers are “manly” and others are not. 

07:32 Midwest Coast Brewing: Cameron Compton, founder of Midwest Coast, and Timothy Ficken, brewery manager, talk about what brought them together to Midwest Coast. They share the different beer trends that were emerging in their very different parts of the country, with hops being a central part of one brewer’s background and almost completely absent from the other’s. Cameron also discusses his time in the military and in the tech world and what compelled him to move with his wife to Chicago, where he had never lived before, and open a brewery with his sister. Cameron also explains how hop contracts work and why they’re so brutal for brewers to work with.

What is an English IPA and what is an ESB? Timothy explains the concept behind the “Extra Special Bitter” and how they developed an English Pale Ale in order to make a certain style more palatable – and marketable – for customers. Katherine brings up a conversation about whether the Western palate really is designed to handle hops (is it?) and Brian explores the idea of a person’s palate changing as they grow older. What is hoppy and what is earthy? An EXTENSIVE debate ensues, including a confused Cody who doesn’t know how to explain what he’s drinking.

54:20 Beer Behavior: When is it okay for brewers to chase trends and when is it not? Katherine gives props to Cameron and Timothy for sticking to the styles they like to brew, which evolves into a discussion of the benefits of trend-chasing – as long as someone else is doing it.

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About Midwest Coast Brewing: Located in West Town, Chicago, Midwest Coast’s family-friendly and dog-friendly taproom welcomes everyone. Learn more on their website at https://www.midwestcoastbrewing.com/ 

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Crafty Brewers is produced by award-winning podcaster Cody Gough. He insists that we tell you that in this episode, you’ll learn about: extra special bitter, English sporting beer, English IPA, English Pale Ales, craft beer, Chicago brewery, beer myths, fruit-infused beer, beer culture, beer trends, sustainability in brewing, dog-friendly breweries, beer styles, homebrewing, West Coast IPAs, English Sporting Beer, IPA popularity, ESB beers, traditional beer styles, beer diversity, brewing philosophy, regional beer differences, craft beer enthusiasts, beer community initiatives, beer market, brewery growth, sibling partnerships, craft beer journey, personal beer stories, craft beer stereotypes, professional brewers, Chicago craft beer scene, craft beer podcast, unique beer flavors, local beer partnerships, brewing beyond boundaries, craft beer myths, chasing trends, and balanced beer offerings.

Discover Azadi Brewing's unique fusion of Indian spices and American craft beer, plus debunk myths about coffee beers.

03:23 Beer Myth: Will coffee-infused beer keep you awake all night? Discover how ingredients like coffee and tea are integrated into beers and learn the truth behind the caffeine content in coffee beers.

08:14 Azadi Brewing Company Interview: Bhavik Modi and Gator Schrand from Azadi Brewing talk about the unique origin story of their Indian-infused craft beer company. They talk about the complexity of Indian cuisine and the opportunities that presents for them to be able to incorporate new ingredients into their beers, including the difficulty of working with certain ingredients like cardamom. 

After the beer break, Bhavik and Gator describe a collab they did with a brewery in Mumbai, India. Bhavik also explains what chicory is and what it adds to the beers they brew. They talk about their commitment to authenticity and how leaning into the Indian identity of their beers has resonated well with consumers. 

44:20 Beer Behavior: Are beers getting more boring? Is there space for more exciting beers? Katherine talks about the importance of breweries staying true to themselves, even when they don’t follow major industry trends. Bhavik and Gator share their points of view on what trends actually tell us about consumer behavior and how it’s affected the focus of their brewing.

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Learn more about Azadi Brewing on their website at https://www.azadibrewing.com/ 

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Crafty Brewers is produced by award-winning podcaster Cody Gough. He insists that we tell you that in this episode, you’ll learn about: craft beer, Indian-inspired beers, Azadi Brewing, cardamom-infused golden ale, craft brewing, cultural fusion, brewing science, lemongrass saison, summertime chai, hazy IPAs, beer myths, coffee beers, brewing philosophies, craft beer trends, seltzers, belgian wit, basmati rice lager, chicory root, coffee substitute, pilot project brewing, indian cuisine, regional beers, indian spices, beer collaborations, Nepalese cuisine, sustainable agriculture, beer innovations, American craft beer, Indian flavors, regional fruits, mountain resort towns, brewing challenges, beer storytelling, beer culture, and craft beer education.

Mikerphone Brewing’s Mike Pallen talks beer collabs and what goes into brewing a coffee stout like Smells Like Bean Spirit.

01:24 Beer Myth:  Does beer make you full, or does it just make you feel full? Learn the truth behind what it is about beer that may be giving you a sensation of fullness, and discover how understanding this can help you enjoy your brews without feeling overly stuffed. Plus: a hilarious and super random tangent about caftans (calf tans?) that really throws everyone for a loop, especially Cody.

09:36 Mikerphone Brewing Interview: Mike Pallen, owner and head brewer of Mikerphone Brewing, discusses his journey from botany to brewing, sharing insights on how his love for beer began. He delves into the trials and triumphs of starting a brewery, the trend of breweries in industrial spaces, the science behind barrel-aged beers, the influence of music on his brewing process, and the significance of local festivals in building community spirit.

The episode covers an array of unique beers such as the Misty Mountain Hop, Smells Like Bean Spirit, and Special Sauce, each with distinct flavor profiles, from coffee maple stouts to double-hopped IPAs. Mike also talks about his brewery’s special barrel-aged releases, including the Barrel-Aged Imperial Smells Like Bean Spirit Special Reserve, its meticulous production process, and the use of local whiskey barrels. Plus: why Mikerphone isn’t serving THC seltzers.

59:38 Beer Behavior: How are hop alternatives like T90 impacting the beer industry? Katherine and Mike go down a hop alternative rabbit hole and talk Incognito, Cryo, and other materials that are finding their way into beers these days.

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About Mikerphone Brewing: Located at 121 Garlisch Drive in Elk Grove Village, Illinois, Mikerphone Brewing is a Chicago craft beer that infuses music. Learn more on their website at https://mikerphonebrewing.com/ 

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Crafty Brewers is produced by award-winning podcaster Cody Gough. He insists that we tell you that in this episode, you’ll learn about: craft beer, beer myths, beer science, carbonation, botany classes, special releases, beer festivals, community collaboration, beer production, beer names, brewing trials, brewing triumphs, caftan mishaps, brewing techniques, beer flavor profiles, brewing equipment, brewing history, brewing challenges, brewing successes, and craft beer trends, India Pale Ales, Barrel-Aged Imperial Stouts, Coffee Maple Stouts, Milk Stouts, Double-Hopped IPAs, beer with oysters, beer with nuts, and hop extracts.

Jim Koblish from Hop District Community Brewing Co. shares his unique story of going from distiller to brewer. Plus: Florida’s craft beer culture shock.

01:59 Beer Myth: Does beer taste better in bottles or in cans? Discover the truth behind a persistent craft beer myth and how understanding the science of BPA-lined cans and light exposure can elevate your beer-drinking experience.

08:30 Hop District Community Brewing Co: Co-owner and brewer Jim Koblish shares his unconventional path from distilling to brewing and talks about the brewing principles shaping today's craft beer scene. He also discusses the transferable skills between distilling and brewing, the challenges of brewing Imperial Stouts with manual setups, and the nuances of heavily fruited sours and adjunct-heavy milkshake beers. Plus: insights into the camaraderie in the local beer scene, plans for a new brewing facility, and the unique identity of Hop District as Illinois' 300th brewery.

51:11 Beer Behavior: What’s the difference between the craft beer community in Chicago and in Florida? Listen tofind out!

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About Hop District Community Brewing Co: Located in La Grange Park, Illinois, Hop District is an IPA and Lager focused craft brewery with a touch of sours, big imperial stouts, and plenty of seasonal brews, which you can consume RESPONSIBLY in a beautiful lounge, enclosed beer garden, and a taproom. Learn more on their website at https://hopdistrictbrewing.com/home-1 

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Crafty Brewers is produced by award-winning podcaster Cody Gough. He insists that we tell you that in this episode, you’ll learn about: craft beer, brewing, craft beer myths, cans vs bottles, brewing innovations, craft beer trends, modern BPA-lined cans, beer protection against light, beer perception, whiskey to brewing, distilling to brewing, Illinois breweries, homebrewing, LaGrange Park, beer science, growlers vs cans, beer containers, beer myths debunked, brewing skills, craft beer community, beer styles, heavily fruited sours, adjunct-heavy milkshake beers, imperial stouts, manual brewing setup, local beer scene, camaraderie among brewers, collaborative brews, brewing principles, brewing trends, craft beer traditions, homebrewing mishaps, beer names, brewing facility expansion, automated brewing equipment, beer packaging, local beer portfolios, and cultural differences in brewing.

Buckledown Brewing’s Ike Orcutt discusses customer loyalty, raspberry craft beer innovations, and eclectic craft cocktail partnerships.

02:03 Beer Myth: Are dark beers only meant for the cold winter months? Learn whether certain beers like Schwarzbiers, Dunkels and Märzen can be refreshing even in warm weather and broaden your beer palate with your newfound knowledge so you can enjoy rich, flavorful brews all year long.

07:20 Buckledown Brewing Interview: Ike Orcutt, founder of BuckleDown Brewing, shares the story of his journey from homebrewing Sierra Nevada clones to finding craft beer success at Buckledown Brewing. He explains his brewery's location strategy, their approach to beer branding, the craft brewery community and customer loyalty, and Buckledown’s bold expansion into craft cocktails. He also pulls back the curtain on cool and fun collaborations in the brewing industry, highlighting past partnerships with local stores and comic book brands and sharing the story behind craft cocktails like their old fashioned garnished with a waffle, which was made in collaboration with the distillery WhistlePig. Plus: Ike showcases several of Buckledown’s noteworthy beers, including Buckledown’s Belt and Suspenders IPA, Raspberry Party Pillow (Hefeweizen), Barbaric Blood Red Ale, Double Down (Lager - Munich Dunkel), and Painted Turtle (American Pale Ale).

46:57 Beer Behavior: Are breweries tapping out of beer festivals? Katherine and Ike discuss the dynamics of festival season, highlighting how festivals impact taproom attendance and consumer behavior. They explore the challenges breweries face in staffing both taprooms and festival booths, as well as the strategic decision-making involved in selecting which festivals to attend. Plus: how do beer festivals affect tap room visits?

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About Buckledown Brewing: Buckledown is located in Lyons, Illinois, and its hand-built taproom is open 7 days a week and is the best place to experience what BuckleDown is all about. Learn more on their website at https://www.buckledownbrewing.com/ 

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Crafty Brewers is produced by award-winning podcaster Cody Gough. He insists that we tell you that in this episode, you’ll learn about: craft beer, dark beer myths,summer brews, craft cocktails, homebrewing, brewing journey, Sierra Nevada clones, beer temperature tips, seasonal beers, brown sugar rum barrel-aged ale, schwarzbier, dunkels, brewery collaborations, craft beer market, craft beer distribution, beer taproom experience, craft beer festivals, craft beer innovations, craft beer customer loyalty, craft beer branding, craft beer success, brewing process, fruit purees in beer, craft cocktail creations, craft beer myths, brewery stories, beer tasting experience, nostalgic beers, beer consumer behavior, and craft beer trends.

Alarmist Brewing’s hilarious Gary Gulley brings an engineer’s lens to brewing and nerds out about cask ales, clear hazies, and what customers really want.

01:27 Beer Myth: Are cask ales all flat? What is a cask ale, anyway? Gary explains what makes a cask ale a cask ale and the role carbonation plays in it. If you’ve never heard of a firkin, spile, cast breather, or cask wedge, then you’ll walk away with a better understanding of them as only an engineer could provide. Plus: should you drink what’s on cask while in the UK?

08:15 Alarmist Brewing Interview: Gary Gulley, owner and founder of Alarmist Brewing, shares why he’s passionate about beer and how his former career as a civil engineer prepared him for a career as a full-time brewer. He talks about his experience learning about homebrewing while working at a nuclear power plant, Coors Party Balls, and how his growing appreciation for beer led him to found Alarmist. Gary also shares the story of how his Le Jus became the first-ever Hazy IPA to win a gold medal at the Great American Beer Festival and how Alarmist developed other award-winning beers including Pantsless, Bronze Medal Winner for American Pale Ale in 2020, and Midwest Royalty, Bronze Medal Winner for American Style Lager in 2021 and 2022.

After sampling some beers, Gary explains the difference between two-row and six-row malts and how they impact the “grainy” flavor of certain beers. He also breaks down the difference between pale ales, American pales, and IPAs, in terms of both hops and bitterness, and what happens when you put lactose in beer. Gary and Katherine also explain why beer recipes “change all the time” and how that can sometimes lead to happy accidents in brewing. The topic of Le Jus Clear also leads to Gary explaining how he used yeast strains to make a clear hazy IPA. Plus: brewing for customers, not brewers; the seasonality of dark beers and customer demand compared to other lighter styles; and a game you should never play called “The John Wayne Hour.”

1:06:36 Beer Behavior: THC seltzers: how do they work and what does industrial hemp have to do with it? Gary breaks down how delta-9 THC works, the chemical process involved in brewing THC seltzers, and how Minnesota is paving the way for other states to brew it. 

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About Alarmist Brewing: Alarmist Brewing is a multiple award winning Chicago craft brewery on the northwest side and the home of Le Jus, the first ever gold medal Hazy IPA at the Great American Beer Festival. Learn more on their website at https://www.alarmistbrewing.com/ 

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Crafty Brewers is produced by award-winning podcaster Cody Gough. He insists that we tell you that in this episode, you’ll learn about: hazy IPAs, the brewing process, beer engines, Chicago breweries, civil engineering, homebrewing, beer industry trends, clear hazies, lactose in beer, craft beer ingredients, beer fermentation, THC beverages, beer regulations, craft beer business, cask programs, beer myths, brewing challenges, craft beer recipe development, and craft beer culture.

Learn about mild ales, the nuances of English hops and the influence of terroir on flavor, and why “beer is for everyone.”

01:33 Beer Myth: Are craft beer taprooms unwelcoming? Katherine discusses the idea that going into tap rooms full of house-produced beers as a novice in the craft beer community is intimidating and you may or may not be welcomed with open arms. Learn the truth behind the intimidation factor of craft beer spaces and how you could use your newfound knowledge to discover new beers, make friends, and become part of a vibrant community without fear.

09:02 Flipside Brewing: Eric Pizer, owner and head brewer of Flipside Brewing, shares his journey of getting into brewing, including a hilarious story about watching a DVD with a friend and how it’s possible that he’s worked at two completely different breweries located at the exact same address in Tinley Park. He also discusses his experience brewing his first beer, an amber ale, and what led him to the philosophy that “beer is for everyone.” The discussion also touches on the language of beer tasting, common misconceptions about dark beers, the significance of staff education in breweries, brewing with personal flair, and the cultural quirks of craft beer.

During the conversation, listeners are introduced to a variety of beer styles and hops, including the British styles with balanced hop and malt profiles, the nuances of English hops like East Kent Goldings and the influence of terroir on flavor, and unique offerings at Flipside like their inventive mild ales. 

40:16 Beer Behavior: What’s going on with beer in the south suburbs of Chicago? Brian, Katherine, and Eric discuss the beer community that's developed in the region and the customer and brewer behavior that have cultivated it.

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About Flipside Brewing: Located in Tinley Park, Illinois, at Flipside Brewing you’ll see a variety of classic beer styles along with current and emerging trends. They strive to provide quality food and beverage in an inviting and friendly space, where the community can gather together over a beer and some wings. Learn more on their website at https://www.flipsidebrewing.com/ 

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Crafty Brewers is produced by award-winning podcaster Cody Gough. He insists that we tell you that in this episode, you’ll learn about: craft beer, craft brewing, craft beer community, taproom culture, beer tasting, craft beer trends, beer collaboration, brewing traditions, beer styles, mild ale, sour ales, wild ales, English ales, beer education, beer conversations, craft beer culture, Flipside Brewing, beer myths, beer tasting language, beer jargon, craft beer scene, artisanal beer, beer trends, craft beer collaborations, and local breweries in Chicago’s south suburbs.

Explore Illuminated Brew Works’ imaginative craft beer creations and unique tap room that’s unlike any other you’ve seen.

01:26 Beer Myth: Is the craft beer market so saturated that now all beer is boring? Learn why some say that craft beer has become monotonous and learn how you can rediscover the diverse and thrilling world of artisanal brews, enhancing your appreciation and enjoyment of every pint.

07:51 Illuminated Brew Works: Jason Monk, Facilities Manager and Assistant Brewer, and Rick Julien, Sales Manager of Illuminated Brew Works, explain why their brewery is “the most DIY of DIY” operations, their incredible thriftiness when building their own equipment, and how they took their operation from a basement brewery to a bustling Chicago location. They also discuss the unique ambience of their tap room, how they strike a balance between following craft beer trends versus personal brewing preferences, and why they are tired of the term “craft beer.” Plus: the ins and outs of their favorite beers, including the blueberry-laden Tony's Humble Pie white stout with blueberry puree, lactose, vanilla and cinnamon, and their citrusy Orange Sunshine saison.

38:38 Beer Behavior: Millennials are drinking craft beer, believe it or not, but they have less brand loyalty than previous generations. Jason, Rick, and Katherine discuss what this means for local craft beer communities and delve into other bizarre generational behavior that is driving change across the industry.

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About Illuminated Brew Works: Illuminated Brew Works is a Chicago brewery making beer for interesting times. From big, hazy IPAs, to yeast-driven urban farmhouses, adjunct-rich stouts and experimentally-driven sours and fruit beers, their offerings rotate seasonally to celebrate the annual cycle. Learn more on their website at https://www.ibw-chicago.com/ 

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Crafty Brewers is produced by award-winning podcaster Cody Gough. He insists that we tell you that in this episode, you’ll learn about: craft beer, craft breweries, beer innovation, craft beer culture, brewing process, craft beer trends, Millennial drinkers, White stouts, Blueberry Pie Stout, lagers, hazy IPA, West Coast IPA, imperial IPA, Irish Stout, Double Dry-Hopped Double IPA, Trust (a year-round lager), Orange Sunshine (a citrus Saison), Astronaut Juice (a double dry-hopped, double IPA), beer recipes, flagship beers, mash tun, welding, craft beer community, beer styles, beer market, beer operations, beer production, beer branding, craft beer events, local breweries, local beer, beer fermentation, beer ingredients, beer adjuncts, chasing beer trends, craft beer appreciation, and beer styles comparison.