Spirituality and creativity aren't just connected—they're practically best friends who finish each other's sentences.

On this episode, Dawn and Ruth sit down with the absolutely delightful Brey Noelle (actress, model, musician, and honestly, is there anything this woman can't do?) who decided to go full-time creative and somehow made it work. We're talking Cannes Film Festival, people. CANNES. While the rest of us are over here trying to figure out how to juggle a side hustle with Sunday service.

Brey spills the tea on everything—the messy middle of chasing dreams, how faith keeps her grounded when Hollywood gets weird, and what it's really like having a film on Amazon Prime (spoiler alert: it's pretty darn cool). Plus, she breaks down her quirky writing process that actually works, her upcoming HBO 'Peacemaker' gig, and why building the right team is harder than finding good hotdish at a church potluck.

We also peek at what's next for this creative powerhouse, including her return to music. Trust us, you'll want to take notes—and maybe grab some coffee. You're gonna need it.

00:00 Introduction and Realizations

00:12 Casual Conversations and Daily Life

00:48 State Fair Plans and Adventures

01:12 Museum Visit and Central Park

03:02 Creative Blocks and Social Media

05:22 Comfort Items and Routines

09:01 State Fair Foods and Traditions

11:13 Guest Introduction: Brey Noelle

13:29 Brey Noelle's Journey to Cannes

17:33 Unexpected Opportunities and Cannes Film Festival

18:01 Amazon Prime Release: 'See You Again'

18:21 Creating Faith-Inspired Films

20:43 Upcoming Projects and Industry Insights

22:42 Balancing Multiple Creative Pursuits

23:27 The Creative Process and Collaboration

24:46 Challenges in the Creative Journey

28:24 Taking Leaps of Faith

30:30 Inspiration from Other Creators

33:49 Connecting Creativity and Spirituality

35:42 Building a Trustworthy Team

38:47 Exciting Future Projects

39:46 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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You're Not Lazy, You're Just Scared (And That Changes Everything)

This week we’re calling out that sneaky little lie we tell ourselves: that we're just being "lazy" when we can't seem to start that project. Spoiler alert: you're not lazy, you're scared. And that's totally normal, so quit beating yourself up about it.

Hosts Dawn and Ruth get wonderfully honest about their own creative fumbles – like when Ruth completely blanked on work commitments (been there!) and Dawn's white-knuckle journey launching her business course. They're diving into why enthusiasm beats discipline every single time when it comes to sustaining your art, plus sharing gems from “The Artist’s Way,” their current book obsession, about treating work like play and finding your people.

You'll get the real talk on creative U-turns, why visualizing success actually works (even if it feels a little woo-woo), and – here's the kicker – why asking for help isn't admitting defeat, it's being smart. Because sometimes you need your people to lovingly tell you to get your act together, and that's what community is for.

Ready to stop hiding and start creating? This one's for you.

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00:00 Introduction and Greetings

00:53 Summer Reflections and Theater Experiences

03:01 Discussing Chapter Nine: Recovering a Sense of Compassion

03:23 Overcoming Fear in Business

05:41 The Importance of Belonging and Success

07:42 Treating Work as Play

11:21 Discussing Creative U-Turns

12:06 The Importance of Collaboration

12:44 Overcoming Creative Blocks

13:18 The Power of Community and Support

14:43 Morning Pages and Creative Activities

17:11 Visualizing Success and Staying Motivated

20:42 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

Yes friends, We're Going There: Jesus, Mushrooms, and Mental Health with the Ligare Folks

We’re diving headfirst into the deep end today, friends! After Dawn and Ruth catch up on their weekend shenanigans (including some quality time at WeFest), we're serving up a conversation that'll make your church ladies raise their eyebrows.

The Ligare folks, a Christian psychedelic society, are out here doing some pretty remarkable work that might surprise you. These lovely humans are bridging the gap between faith and psychedelic therapy, and before you do a double-take into your hot dish, just stick with us for a minute here.

Turns out there's real honest-to-goodness science behind using these plant medicines for folks dealing with depression that just won't budge, PTSD that's been hanging around way too long, and other mental health struggles that regular treatments can't seem to touch. And here's the thing - they're not tossing their faith aside. Nope, they're weaving spiritual practices right into the healing process because apparently God shows up in the most unexpected places (which shouldn't surprise any of us Midwesterners who've seen Him work through a good hotdish and genuine community).

So grab your coffee (or Diet Coke, we don't judge), set your preconceptions aside for just a bit, and let's chat about hope, healing, and why sometimes the road to wholeness looks different than what we grew up thinking. Plus, we'll fill you in on how to connect with Ligare because this conversation is just the beginning, and honestly, the world could use more of this thoughtful, compassionate work.

Fair warning: This one's gonna stretch you, and that's exactly the point.

00:00 Introduction to Psychedelic Healing and Christianity

00:21 Weekend Recap: We Fest and Local Events

02:28 Daily Life and Personal Updates

03:21 Business Ventures and Creative Pursuits

06:37 Creative Blocks and Overcoming Challenges

08:46 Guest Introduction and Discussion on Psychedelics

12:27 Introduction to Alyssa Jo May

12:50 Hunt's Journey with Psychedelics

14:22 Megan's Involvement and Background

15:19 Alyssa's Dual Life and Role

17:06 The Need for Psychedelic Healing

23:07 Legal and Practical Aspects

25:24 Personal Experiences with Psychedelics

32:23 Conclusion and Resources

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Ruth and Dawn are discussing something that nobody talks about in seminary: pastors are natural salespeople who cast vision, build programs, and run stewardship campaigns. But when it comes to using those same skills to start a side hustle? Suddenly we're "too commercial" or "not focused on ministry." After 20 years watching talented women pastors struggle financially while apologizing for wanting financial stability, we have some thoughts, and a program called Discern by Doing for Business that's changing everything.

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What We're Covering:

Why "being too forward" is code for "being effective" (00:00)

Two decades of trial, error, and refusing to take no for an answer (06:49)

We're diving headfirst into why vulnerability makes us squirm, why effort actually matters, and how abundance shows up when you're not trying so dang hard. Dawn and Ruth are back with another episode of 'Created Creative,' and we're not messing around.

Broadcasting live from the parking lot of Hector International Airport in Fargo, ND, we're talking Chapter Six of 'The Artist's Way' focusing on all the messy stuff nobody wants to admit: chasing dreams that might be pipe dreams, making real connections in a world full of fake ones, and figuring out how to want nice things without losing your soul in the process. Oh, and we'll throw in some honest talk about parenting fails, travel mishaps, and whether your job is actually your calling or just paying the bills.

Plus, we're spilling details about our upcoming Puerto Rico retreat for women in ministry—because sometimes you need to leave North Dakota winter to remember who you are. Come for the community, stay for the personal growth, and maybe learn something despite yourself.

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00:00 Introduction and Personal Reflections

00:18 Welcome to Create Creative

00:24 Life in Fargo, North Dakota

01:58 Parenting and Screen Time

03:50 Chapter Six Discussion

05:16 Artist Dates and Personal Experiences

09:13 Abundance and Capitalism

14:36 Navigating Life and Career Choices

16:28 The Joy and Challenges of Pursuing Parenthood

17:37 The Evolution of Calling and Career

19:14 The Reality of Generational Wealth and Success

22:24 Crafting a Lifestyle of Abundance

26:04 The Importance of Connections and Networking

31:09 Embracing Possibility and Effort

32:59 Conclusion and Call to Action

Dawn and Ruth tried media deprivation week from 'The Artist's Way' - no social media, no binge-watching, and no podcasts. Turns out cutting the digital noise actually works for unleashing creativity. Skip our podcast this week and do some morning pages instead - your brain will thank you!

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Everyone thinks their story has already been told. But it hasn't been told by you yet, and that makes all the difference. On this episode of Created Creative, Dawn and Ruth are getting real about kicking self-doubt to the curb and why your voice matters in this noisy world.

We reflect on last week's theme from 'The Artist's Way' - reading deprivation. Sounds terrible, right? Well, buckle up buttercup, because it's actually pretty amazing what happens when you step away from everyone else's words for a hot minute.

Then we sit down with Laurie Neill, a pastor and author who's not here to play games. She's tackling the lies we tell ourselves about who we are versus the actual truth about our identity and spirituality in her book. Laurie walks us through her journey from graphic designer to published author - and let me tell you, the road was no walk around the lake.

We get into the nitty-gritty of creativity and inspiration, plus Laurie shares her gorgeous devotional blog (seriously, the art pieces will make you stop scrolling) and her one-of-a-kind junk journals. Because here's what we know for sure: your spiritual life and your creative life aren't separate things - they're meant to work together, every single day.

So grab your favorite mug, settle in, and let's talk about why your story is exactly what the world needs to hear.

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00:00 Overcoming Self-Doubt

00:17 Introduction and Delays

01:08 Artist's Way Week 4: Reading Deprivation

01:41 4th of July Fireworks Chaos

04:09 Reflecting on Reading Deprivation

05:43 Recovering a Sense of Possibility

06:15 Synchronicities and Community

08:27 Dreams and Aspirations

12:28 Virtue Trap and Self-Abandonment

14:18 Interview with Lori Neal

22:03 The Journey of Self-Publishing

22:23 Marketing Challenges and Strategies

22:58 The Essence of the Book: Christ-Centered Transformation

23:14 Personal Stories and Authenticity

24:08 Exploring the Blog and Artistic Background

26:27 The Concept of Junk Journals

27:49 Favorite Artists and Inspirations

28:57 A Creative and Musical Household

29:30 The Story of Meeting Her Husband

30:53 Balancing Creativity and Discipline

35:52 Publishing Dilemmas and Solutions

38:52 Encouragement for Aspiring Authors

39:24 Conclusion and Contact Information

Look, we need to talk about something that's going to sting a little: you can't pour from an empty cup, but somehow we keep trying anyway. In this episode of Created Creative, Dawn and Ruth are getting real about Chapter 4 of Julia Cameron's The Artist's Way – and it's about to call us all out.

Here's the thing nobody wants to admit: we're so busy being everything to everyone that we've completely lost touch with who we actually are. Sound familiar? Yeah, we thought so. We are diving deep into why integrity isn't just about being honest with others – it's about being honest with yourself about what you need to thrive.

We’re tackling the hard stuff: a reading deprivation challenge (yes, that's a real thing), why we feel guilty about having hobbies, and how to actually make room for fun without feeling like we're being selfish. Plus, you'll get some beautifully messy stories about juggling responsibilities, creative dreams, and those curveball life transitions that nobody prepares you for.

This isn't just another "find your passion" pep talk – it's permission to stop abandoning yourself in the name of being good. Ready to reconnect with that creative spark you've been ignoring? Let's do this thing.

Drop us a line on social media – we want to hear your stories too.

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00:00 Introduction and Initial Thoughts

00:17 Casual Conversation and Personal Anecdotes

02:11 Reflections on Integrity and Creativity

04:24 Exploring New Hobbies and Interests

06:11 Challenges and Personal Growth

10:33 Embracing Change and Transformation

11:29 Reflecting on High School Memories

12:45 Navigating Life Transitions

13:24 Creating Your Ideal Environment

14:59 Financial Reflections and Future Planning

16:38 Living in Alignment and Integrity

18:18 Balancing Creativity and Responsibilities

20:15 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

This conversation is going to hit you right in the feels. Dawn and Ruth talk with Stephanie Lape about how the Enneagram completely changed her relationships—including helping her reconnect with her father in a deep, healing way. Stephanie's journey from comparative religions professor to pastor is fascinating, but what really gets us is how she breaks down the Enneagram without judgment. We're covering the basics, how different types interact, and why this system makes you more compassionate, not more critical.

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00:00 Introduction and Personal Story

00:16 Local Television Interview Experience

00:40 Rummage Sale Highlights

01:23 Artist Way Accountability Group

04:00 Manifesting and Synchronicity

06:39 Enneagram and Personal Growth

07:35 Guest Introduction: Stephanie Lape

09:01 Stephanie's Journey and Comparative Religions

11:14 Understanding the Enneagram

20:04 Exploring the Enneagram Types

22:30 Heart-Centered Types: Twos, Threes, and Fours

25:52 Head-Centered Types: Fives, Sixes, and Sevens

26:58 Gut-Centered Types: Eights, Nines, and Ones

29:16 Common Misdiagnoses and Triads

30:59 Teaching the Enneagram: Challenges and Insights

32:54 Creativity and the Enneagram

35:05 Writing and Publishing a Book

37:20 Coaching and Entrepreneurship

43:42 Resources and Final Thoughts

Do you suffer from time sickness? In this episode of Created Creative, co-hosts Dawn and Ruth discuss their summer journey through the book 'The Artist's Way'. In particular, they focus on Chapter 2 which covers the themes of time management and dealing with 'crazy makers'. Dawn shares her experience with an occupational therapist, while Ruth touches upon her attendance at her son's recital and visiting a museum event. They also discuss their personal strategies for time management, the concept of time sickness, and how they incorporate creative pursuits into their lives. The episode wraps up with encouragement for listeners to join their accountability group for ongoing support through 'The Artist's Way'.

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00:20 Occupational Therapy and Daily Life Updates

01:25 Museum Visits and Artistic Inspirations

02:36 Library Story Hours and Community Activities

03:00 Artist's Way Journey and Accountability Group

04:31 Time Management and Time Sickness

10:17 Artist Dates and Following Curiosity

11:31 Joyful Living and Home Decor

12:46 Love Every Subscription and Child Development

14:14 Crazy Makers and Personal Reflections

15:25 Dealing with Crazy Makers

16:00 Coaching Tips for Handling Difficult People

17:14 Personal Stories and Examples

18:03 Navigating Change and New Situations

22:15 Balancing Parenthood and Personal Interests

24:31 Creative Recovery and Time Management

29:27 Final Thoughts and Encouragement