In the first segment of this episode, TNS editorial and marketing director Libby Clark talks with Dave Harrison, senior application development manager at Microsoft, and Raygun co-founder and CEO John-Daniel Trask about how developers can help customers and improve their software development life cycle feedback loops.

Then later in the show, TNS publisher Alex Williams and TNS managing editor Joab Jackson discuss some of the top news and podcasts from the week, including the release of Kubernetes 1.17, continuous documentation for CI/CD, Packet's Tinkerbell bare metal deployment technology, and the importance of data protection in cloud native operations.