“I’m not sure I’m well suited for this profession.” Sound familiar? We’ve heard this from other female therapists more times than we can count. But is it really about us being ill suited for this profession or is it really more so that our practice/work setting is ill suited for us?

In this episode we speak with psychologists, Dr. Kelly Yanek and Dr. Michele Kinderman, about what led them to leave their standard jobs and develop their innovative therapy practice, Wellness Outside the Box – Therapy Redefined. Kelly and Michele talk with us about how they incorporate nature-based therapies and their unique Dual Therapist Model into their practice and how these approaches have been beneficial for both them and their clients. Our guests also offer tips on how other therapists can begin experimenting with novel approaches to treatment and we end off by hearing about some of Kelly and Michele’s favourite “non-conventional” self-care practices.

Highlights:

• What lead Kelly and Michele to develop Therapy Outside the Box – Therapy Redefined
• What helped and hindered their willingness to try something different and novel
• Some of the logistical aspects of the Dual Therapy Model
• How the development of Therapy Outside the Box contributed to their own self-care
• Initial steps therapists can take to experiment with a new approach to their work
• Kelly and Michele’s favourite “non-conventional” self-care practices.

Dr. Kelly Yanek is a nationally certified School Psychologist and co-founder of Wellness Outside the Box. She has a longstanding love for the outdoors and incorporates this passion for nature and adventure into her work, whether taking walks with high school students or leading mindfulness exercises with kindergarteners. Dr. Yanek has specialized training in adventure based counseling and the technical skills of high and low ropes/adventure courses. She is also a RYT- 200 yoga instructor. She combines her expertise in adventure, mindfulness, and nature-work to offer non-traditional paths to wellness.

Dr. Michele Kinderman is a Licensed Clinical Psychologist and co-founder of Wellness Outside the Box. For nearly two decades, she has worked with children and adults struggling with trauma, depression, anxiety, relationships and parenting, and the stresses of everyday life. Dr. Kinderman combines the more traditional therapies (CBT, DBT, insight oriented) with music, movement, and nature to assist clients in building their strengths and achieving their goals. She also uses Pet Therapy to help individuals work through grief via connection and interaction with animals.

Connect with Kelly and Michele:
[email protected]
https://wellnessoutsidethebox.com

Connect with Melissa & Karen at Intentional Therapist:
[email protected]
https://www.linkedin.com/in/drmelissatiessen/

Share one of your own self-care experiments via our SpeakPipe page at: https://www.speakpipe.com/intentionaltherapist

Ready to upgrade your self-care? Check out the independent study version of our course, Thrivival Skills for Therapists, and earn 3 CE credits! Because self-care is PART OF our jobs! More info at: https://intentional-therapist.newzenler.com/courses/thrivival-skills-for-therapists-independent-study

Disclaimer: This podcast seeks to be educational in purpose and is not to be used as clinical advice. Please connect with a therapist one-on-one for personalized support.