It's no secret that the inventor of the float tank, John Lilly, was also an early psychonaut and used the tank for mental exploration in conjunction with LSD. Not everyone in the float community appreciates this shared history and some actively try to distance themselves from it given the taboo nature of psychedelics. 

Graham and Ashkahn share their thoughts on psychedelics and floating and how, as a business, they can be completely separated while still being important, as well as explaining why some people might reasonably decide to disassociate from them.

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It's no secret that the inventor of the float tank, John Lilly, was also an early psychonaut and used the tank for mental exploration in conjunction with LSD. Not everyone in the float community appreciates this shared history and some actively try to distance themselves from it given the taboo nature of psychedelics.

Graham and Ashkahn share their thoughts on psychedelics and floating and how, as a business, they can be completely separated while still being important, as well as explaining why some people might reasonably decide to disassociate from them.

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Ashkahn: Okay, welcome. Hey. How's it going, everybody?

Graham: Hi.

Ashkahn: This is Ashkahn.

Graham: I am Graham.

Ashkahn: That's right. This is another one.

Graham: We're doing it again.

Ashkahn: Whole 'nother day.

Graham: Today's question is, “why do some people in the float industry” Not gonna name any names, Ashkahn-

Ashkahn: I'm not gonna name any names either.

Graham: ”distance themselves from the psychedelic community? They seem to go hand-in-hand to me.” Yeah.

Ashkahn: Yeah.

Graham: Yeah, honestly, I think this is one of those things where psychedelics are largely illegal and a lot of-

Ashkahn: And taboo.

Graham: Yeah, and especially in a lot of parts of the country, much more taboo than here, for instance, in Portland, Oregon. We run a legal business,

Most float centers divide on floats offered between 60 or 90 minute floats, but some split the difference right down the middle and offer 75 minutes. Graham and Ashkahn share their thoughts on this tactic, what they see as the pros, cons, and things to consider when implementing it.

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Most float centers divide on floats offered between 60 or 90 minute floats, but some split the difference right down the middle and offer 75 minutes. Graham and Ashkahn share their thoughts on this tactic, what they see as the pros, cons, and things to consider when implementing it.

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FTS Product - State of the Industry Report

(In this last year, 7 float centers reported offering 75 minute floats)

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Graham: All right.

Ashkahn: Welcome everybody.

Graham: Hello.

Ashkahn: This is Ashkahn.

Graham: And I'm Graham over here.

Ashkahn: And boy, we've got a big one. We've got a big one today.

Graham: It's not ...

Ashkahn: It's a normal sized one. I was just trying to make them feel excited, you know? Try and pump people up.

Graham: That's great. It's gonna be a great episode.

Ashkahn: It's gonna be a really good one.

Graham: And you did a great job pumping people up too, I think.

Ashkahn: Thanks. Yeah. And you did a really complimenting me just now.

Graham: Oh, thanks. Anyway, our question for today is, "What do you think about 75 minute floats?"

Ashkahn: 75 minute floats.

Graham: The old 75-er.

Graham and Ashkahn give their perspective on the pros and cons of giving free floats away for teachers. Giving out free floats is the Float On way and giving them to a specific group of people who could really use them sounds like a good idea.

The guys break it down and address some of the concerns any float center may have about running a program like this.

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Graham and Ashkahn give their perspective on the pros and cons of giving free floats away for teachers. Giving out free floats is the Float On way and giving them to a specific group of people who could really use them sounds like a good idea.

The guys break it down and address some of the concerns any float center may have about running a program like this.

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Ashkahn: Howdy doo dah.

Graham: Another day another podcast as we say.

Ashkahn: We do actually that.

Graham: We've said that few times now.

Ashkahn: That's an actual saying that we say. Unlike our other sayings which are mostly ...

Graham: One-offs.

Ashkahn: I have been saying howdy doo dah pretty consistently.

Graham: Like on the podcast or outside of the podcast as well?

Ashkahn: Yeah, I guess I have to be saying it on the podcast for it to ...

Graham: Maybe in your sleep.

Ashkahn: Sleep doo-dah-ing?

Graham: Our question today-

Ashkahn: My name is Ashkahn.

Graham: Oh, I'm Graham, sorry. I'm sorry. Our question today is “I've seen some campaigns by centers who are giving free floats to teachers for a week or two leading up to school starting. Thoughts?”

Question mark, yeah, they put it in there.

Ashkahn: I think it's cool.

Graham: Badass, yeah. I saw this on Float Collective and I saw Dan Larsen posting it up about OlyFloat...

With the push from Justin Feinstein at LIBR to get more float centers involved in research, many float center owners are chomping at the bit to push studies forward on the benefits of floating. But where do you start and how do you make it happen? 

Graham and Ashkahn discuss this idea and how to do research right, as well as some of the things that might be helpful OR harmful to the world of floating in the eyes of the scientific community. There's a lot of nuanced things to know about proper research and if you go in overzealous without considering how established science is done, it can harm the reputation of the practice.

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With the push from Justin Feinstein at LIBR to get more float centers involved in research, many float center owners are chomping at the bit to push studies forward on the benefits of floating. But where do you start and how do you make it happen?

Graham and Ashkahn discuss this idea and how to do research right, as well as some of the things that might be helpful OR harmful to the world of floating in the eyes of the scientific community. There's a lot of nuanced things to know about proper research and if you go in overzealous without considering how established science is done, it can harm the reputation of the practice.

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What Benefits of Floating have been Proven Scientifically? – DSP 181

Talking About Dr. Justin Feinstein’s Anxiety Study – DSP 101

FTS Product - Scientific Research List (Free)

FTS Product - About Float Tanks Guide (Free)

Float Conference Podcast 2018 - 133: DR. JUSTIN FEINSTEIN – LIBR

Art of the Float - Justin Feinstein & His Published Research Study Review

Justin Feinstein Introduces the Float Research Collective

Graham and Ashkahn offer some helpful tips to keep in mind when planning out the electrical framework for your float rooms. How many circuits you should plan for, where to place outlets, GFCI compliance, just to name a few. 

Definitely an essential episode for anyone to listen to before going into their build-out phase.

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Graham and Ashkahn offer some helpful tips to keep in mind when planning out the electrical framework for your float rooms. How many circuits you should plan for, where to place outlets, GFCI compliance, just to name a few.

Definitely an essential episode for anyone to listen to before going into their build-out phase.

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Should I Wire my Float Tanks into the Wall? – DSP 265

Long Term Construction for Float Centers – DSP 260

FTS Product - Float Center Construction Packet

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Graham: Alright, welcome.

Ashkahn: Hello.

Graham: I'm Graham.

Ashkahn: I'm Ashkahn.

Graham: And today's question is “what sort of electrical do I need to run to each room. Each and every room.”

Ashkahn: Each one.

Graham: Every one.

Ashkahn: Every ... Well not every one. Just the float rooms, I'm assuming.

Graham: Oh. Yeah that is good. But every single float room.

Ashkahn: Every single float room.

Graham: They didn't say that but it was implied.