This week’s episode is with Dan LaCivita who is a co-founder of Play—a new way to design mobile apps using native iOS materials. As soon as I saw this app clip I knew it was a big deal and that I had to interview him to learn more.

So in this conversation we go deep into:

• How to unlock the skill of interaction design
• What Apple’s sandbox unlocks for designers
• Why they decided to launch Play as a mobile app
• The importance of keeping your hands in the clay
• How AI might impact the future of interaction design
• a lot more

• Dan mentions his cofounder JoonYong Park
• The App Clip that first blew my mind