The systems we live in suggest that a successful human life depends on denying pain, endless hustle, stress, and sustaining trauma—and making it all look easy. The only problem is that human nature objects. Psychological and physical suffering seem to be increasing while illness and trauma continue to define how we live.

But, what's in it for our culture? Why and how do we breed disease—and why do we call that normal?

Educator, mental chiropractor, musical theater pro, and co-author of The Myth of Normal Daniel Maté (yes—the son of Gabor Maté!) sits down with Caitlin to unpack how the norms and assumptions we have about who people are, what they need, and what health, trauma, illness, and healing look like in a toxic culture. In this conversation, Daniel offers us the best macro perspective on the effects of trauma on people and our society—and what steps can be taken to reverse the damage.

Today's episode featured…

Do Scale by Les McKeown

Stolen Focus by Johan Harrari

10x Is Easier Than 2x by Dan Sullivan and Benjamin Hardy

Remember His Name: Unmasking the Faceless God of the West by Angela Natividad

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