Fatima, who is Nigerian, is a women’s rights activists. Caesar from Mali, just wants to live his life again. Journalist Daniel Trilling tells the stories of refugees who try to make a new life in Europe. Trilling is the author of Lights In The Distance: Exile and Refuge at the Borders of Europe and writes for The New York Times, Al Jazeera, London Review of Books, and New Statesman.

Host: Clara Young

Producer: Robin Allison Davis

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