In this episode of Daring Creativity podcast Debbie Millman shares her transformative journey from a pivotal class with Milton Glaser to becoming one of the most influential voices in creative conversations.
Through her 20-year podcasting career with Design Matters, ownership of Print Magazine, and leadership of the world's first Masters in Branding program at SVA, Millman reveals the power of writing your future, choosing courage over confidence, and redefining failure as simply giving up on yourself.
The conversation explores her famous 10-year plan exercise that has changed countless lives, the evolution of deep listening skills, and her meticulous research process that unearths hidden gems from guests' histories. Millman discusses navigating different life decades, the involuntary nature of fear, and why AI cannot replace the soul of original creativity.
She demonstrates how creating your own opportunities—rather than waiting to be chosen—can lead to extraordinary influence and meaningful work that spans decades.
Key Takeaways
- The 10-year plan works: Writing a detailed essay about your future life from waking to sleeping can manifest remarkable changes, but requires genuine commitment and time
- Courage trumps confidence: Confidence only comes from successful repetition of past experiences; courage is what you need to step into the unknown first
- Redefine failure: The only real failure is giving up on yourself—everything else is just losing, which is part of the natural process of growth
- Fear is involuntary: Our reptilian brain creates fear to protect us from uncertainty; we can't eliminate it but can control how we respond to it
- Deep listening is a skill: True listening means following your conversation partner rather than waiting for your turn to talk; preparation enables this flow
- Research creates magic: Spending hours in "wormholes" of research allows you to meet guests wherever they want to go in conversation
- Life stages bring different challenges: Each decade has its focus—twenties for experimentation, thirties for establishment, forties for plateau-breaking, sixties for "if not now, when?"
- Create your own opportunities: Rather than waiting to be invited into the "best band," build your own stage and invite others to join you
- AI can't replace soul: While AI excels at combinatorial creativity and research assistance, original creative work still starts in human brains and hearts
- Longevity builds influence: Staying committed to work for decades allows you to evolve, improve, and eventually lead in ways that short-term thinking cannot achieve
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