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In this 71st in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. In this episode, we talk about trees and mental health and lockdowns and polar bears. Among other things. Does having trees outside your window help mitigate depression? If so, how close do they need to be? Does it matter what species they are? What’s so great about trees anyway? What about rivers or birds or volcanoes? Also: how do extended lockdowns affect teenagers in particular? What do we lose when we close schools, shut down organized sports, keep people from socializing? And: what do polar bears eat when melting sea ice keeps the seals out of reach? Duck eggs of course! 

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Mentioned in this episode: 

Marselle et al 2020. Urban street tree biodiversity and antidepressant prescriptions. Scientific Reports, 10(1): 1-11. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-79924-5 

Mitchell et al 2015. Neighborhood environments and socioeconomic inequalities in mental well-being. American journal of preventive medicine, 49(1): 80-84. (paywalled) 

MacGillis, March 8, 2021. The Lost Year: What the Pandemic Cost Teenagers. ProPublica. https://www.propublica.org/article/the-lost-year-what-the-pandemic-cost-teenagers 

Jagielski, et al 2021. Polar bear foraging on common eider eggs: estimating the energetic consequences of a climate-mediated behavioural shift. Animal Behaviour, 171: 63-75. https://static1.squarespace.com/static/59845a6359cc687d5ab8fd4d/t/5fcf8327505b451de18fbdf9/1607435075723/1-s2.0-S0003347220303316-main.pdf 

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In this 70th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. 

Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century, is now available for pre-sale at amazon. Publication date: 9-14-21: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0593086880/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_5BDTABYFKRJKZBT5GSQA

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These Seuss books: The Zax, Green Eggs and Ham, The Butter Battle Book, I Had Trouble in Getting to Solla Sollew, The Sneetches, The Shape of Me and Other Stuff, Oh the Places You’ll Go!, The Lorax, Horton Hears a Who!, McElligot’s Pool, And To Think That I Saw it on Mulberry Street, The Cat in the Hat, One Fish Two Fish Red Fish Blue Fish

CNN says: “6 Dr. Seuss books won't be published anymore because they portray people in 'hurtful and wrong' ways”: https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/02/us/dr-seuss-books-cease-publication-trnd/index.html

“Learning for Justice” says “It's Time to Talk About Dr. Seuss”: https://www.learningforjustice.org/magazine/its-time-to-talk-about-dr-seuss

This 2019 paper says “The Cat is Out of the Bag: Orientalism, Anti-Blackness, and White Supremacy in Dr. Seuss's Children's Books”: https://sophia.stkate.edu/rdyl/vol1/iss2/4/

On Being A Fish: https://inference-review.com/article/on-being-a-fish

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In this 69th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. In this episode, we begin by discussing power, race and social media, specifically regarding the app Clubhouse. We talk about how Covid outcomes are affected by preexisting conditions, such as obesity and hypertension. We ask: should children be vaccinated, and are the reasons being proposed to do so justified? We review a truly sexist obituary of an esteemed scientist, and ask what should be done about it. And we review a new finding in octopi. 

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Mentioned in this episode:

O’Hearn et al 2021. Coronavirus Disease 2019 Hospitalizations Attributable to Cardiometabolic Conditions in the United States: A Comparative Risk Assessment Analysis, published in the Journal of American Heart Association:
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/epub/10.1161/JAHA.120.019259
 
Vaccine trials ramp up in children and adolescents (Feb 26, 2021): https://science.sciencemag.org/content/sci/371/6532/874.full.pdf

2019-20 Season’s Pediatric Flu Deaths Tie High Mark Set During 2017-18 Season, from the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/spotlights/2019-2020/2019-20-pediatric-flu-deaths.htm?web=1&wdLOR=c5656CABB-FBB6-CB48-AD0A-446F825CCC75

Obituary of Hertha Ayrton: https://www.nature.com/articles/112800a0

Call to retract the obituary of Hertha Ayrton: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00472-7?WT.ec_id=NATURE-20210225&utm_source=nature_etoc&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20210225&sap-outbound-id=CBFDD09F8D5DBA5A4D4963684E47377FB3D52DC8

Perception: Feel the Light (a short story about what octopi can do, Feb 26, 2021): https://science.sciencemag.org/content/371/6532/twil?utm_campaign=toc_sci-mag_2021-02-25&et_rid=337917989&et_cid=3679411

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In this 68th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens.In this episode, we begin by discussing ice storms and electrical outages, and what it suggests about differing ecologies. We review Daniel Schmactenberger’s categorization of “1st, 2nd, and 3rd person epistemics”, and discuss what they suggest about education. Meanwhile, the NYT argues for skipping the critical reasoning and going right to the answer. Modern fact-checkers are an existential threat to civilization. The NYT also thinks that ClubHouse’s “unfettered” conversations are a problem. The House Committee on Energy & Commerce is having a(nother) meeting on misinformation with big tech CEOs. Also, a group of activists got Wikipedia to take down a page on the lab leak hypothesis. Peter Embarek of the WHO commission explains why the lab leak hypothesis is unlikely (or does he?). Another new paper suggests that lab leak should be the default hypothesis. And finally: dung beetles, and what else they can offer us besides cool field projects.

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Bret’s conversation with Daniel Schmactenberger, at the 1:50:58 mark where Daniel discusses 1st, 2nd, and 3rd person epistemics: https://youtu.be/YPJug0s2u4w?t=665

 New York Times op-ed, Feb 18, 2021: Don’t Go Down the Rabbit Hole: Critical thinking, as we’re taught to do it, isn’t helping in the fight against misinformation. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/18/opinion/fake-news-media-attention.html 

 House Committee on Energy & Commerce is having a hearing with Facebook, Google and Twitter CEOs on “misinformation and disinformation plaguing online platforms” (Feb 18, 2021 Press Release): https://energycommerce.house.gov/newsroom/press-releases/ec-committee-announces-hearing-with-tech-ceos-on-the-misinformation-and 

 The Lab Leak hypothesis wikipedia entry was “fact-checked” out of existence by a small band of motivated activists. Here’s a WayBackMachine version of it: https://web.archive.org/web/20210210045619/https:/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_lab_leak_hypothesis 

 Peter Embarek interviewed by Science Magazine the WHO commission that was in Wuhan (Feb 14, 2021): https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/02/politics-was-always-room-who-mission-chief-reflects-china-trip-seeking-covid-19-s 

 Latham & Wilson 2021. Why China and the WHO Will Never Find a Zoonotic Origin For the COVID-19 Pandemic Virus. Feb 16, 2021: https://www.independentsciencenews.org/commentaries/why-china-and-the-who-will-never-find-a-zoonotic-origin-for-the-covid19-pandemic-virus/ 

Humble dung beetles may be ideal DNA detectors for animal surveys. Feb 19, 2021: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/02/humble-dung-beetles-may-be-ideal-dna-detectors-animal-surveys

Heather on Meghan Murphy’s channel: The Same Drugs: Heather Heying on gender identity, Twitter, and the lab leak theory: https://youtu.be/eT-BETzAnjc

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In this 67th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. 

DarkHorse merchandise now available at: store.darkhorsepodcast.org 

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Become a member of the DarkHorse LiveStreams, and get access to an additional Q&A livestream every month. Join at Heather's Patreon. 

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CNN’s Becky Anderson interviews WHO commission spokesperson Peter Daszak: https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2021/02/09/who-coronavirus-origin-wuhan-china-peter-daszak-interview-anderson-ctw-intl-ldn-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/coronavirus-intl/ 

IUCN’s (International Union for Conservation of Nature) Red List on Melogale moschata, the Small-toothed Ferret Badger: https://www.iucnredlist.org/species/41626/45209676#use-trade 

Mallapaty et al, February 10, 2021 Nature News article: ‘Major stones unturned’: COVID origin search must continue after WHO report, say scientists: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00375-7 

Ladapo, February 4, 2021 in the Wall Street Journal. The ‘Universal Vaccination’ Chimera: https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-universal-vaccination-chimera-11612466130?mod=opinion_lead_pos5 

UC Berkeley bans solitary, outdoor exercise: https://www.sfgate.com/education/article/Police-dorms-outdoor-exercise-UC-Berkeley-lockdown-15937294.php 

The Oregon Dept of Human Services jumps the same Covid shark, over and over and over again: https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/ORDHS/bulletins/2c097aa 

Casiraghi, L., Spiousas, I., Dunster, G.P., McGlothlen, K., Fernández-Duque, E., Valeggia, C. and Horacio, O., 2021. Moonstruck sleep: Synchronization of human sleep with the moon cycle under field conditions. Science Advances, 7(5), p.eabe0465. https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/advances/7/5/eabe0465.full.pdf 

Helfrich-Förster, C., Monecke, S., Spiousas, I., Hovestadt, T., Mitesser, O. and Wehr, T.A., 2021. Women temporarily synchronize their menstrual cycles with the luminance and gravimetric cycles of the Moon. Science Advances, 7(5), p.eabe1358. https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/advances/7/5/eabe1358.full.pdf 

This Week in Science: Moon Synchronicity: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/371/6528/twis?utm_campaign=toc_sci-mag_2021-01-28&et_rid=337917989&et_cid=3646874
 
Science News: Prozac turns guppies into ‘zombies’. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/02/prozac-turns-guppies-zombie

Polverino, G., Martin, J.M., Bertram, M.G., Soman, V.R., Tan, H., Brand, J.A., Mason, R.T. and Wong, B.B., 2021. Psychoactive pollution suppresses individual differences in fish behaviour. Proceedings of the Royal Society B, 288(1944): 20202294. https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2020.2294

Amado, Jorge. Dona Flor and Her Two Husbands. https://www.amazon.com/Dona-Flor-Her-Two-Husbands/dp/0307276643
 
Heather on Biological Women’s Hour with Kellie-Jay Keen: https://youtu.be/QoGRWPSvZB8
 
Heather on Savage Minds podcast with Julian Vigo: https://savageminds.substack.com/p/heather-heying?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=copy

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The first DarkHorse podcast with Daniel Schmachtenberger.
From his website: "Daniel Schmachtenberger’s central interest is long term civilization design: developing better collective capacities for sense-making and meaning-making, to inform higher quality choice-making…towards a world commensurate with our higher values and potentials." 

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In this 66th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. In this episode, we begin by discussing what the increasing visibility of a viable hypothesis for the origins of SARS-CoV2 says about modern science and politics. Then: Is eating red meat inflammatory? Is saying that eating red meat is inflammatory, inflammatory? What would it mean for evolutionary biologists to “stay in their lane” (and why shouldn’t we)? What does “follow the science” mean when we are being told to wear masks in National Parks? Is the New York Times punking us, or did they seriously just suggest that encrypted messaging services are dangerous because untrue things are sometimes said? What is the null hypothesis—in general, and in particular, with regard to the origins of SARS-CoV2? Does Sony’s classification system of “human, animal and bird” make any sense, and does it matter? And finally: what are sidewinders and how do they move, what are mangroves, and what on Earth could the connection possibly be?

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Mentioned in this episode: 

Luthra-Guptasarma, M. and Guptasarma, P., Inflammation begets hyper-inflammation in Covid-19: Diet-derived chronic inflammation promotes runaway acute inflammation resulting in cytokine storms. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Purnananda_Guptasarma/publication/341411711_Inflammation_begets_hyper-inflammation_in_Covid-19_Diet-derived_chronic_inflammation_promotes_runaway_acute_inflammation_resulting_in_cytokine_storms/links/5ec1efe9458515626cb0a596/Inflammation-begets-hyper-inflammation-in-Covid-19-Diet-derived-chronic-inflammation-promotes-runaway-acute-inflammation-resulting-in-cytokine-storms.pdf 

Domingo, J.L. and Nadal, M., 2017. Carcinogenicity of consumption of red meat and processed meat: a review of scientific news since the IARC decision. Food and chemical toxicology, 105, pp.256-261. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0278691517302053 

Lindeberg, Staffan. 2010. Book: Food and Western Disease: Health and Nutrition from an Evolutionary Perspective. 

Executive Order, January 20, 2021. Executive Order on Protecting the Federal Workforce and Requiring Mask-Wearing: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/01/20/executive-order-protecting-the-federal-workforce-and-requiring-mask-wearing/ 

Meltzer, D.O., Best, T.J., Zhang, H., Vokes, T., Arora, V. and Solway, J., 2020. Association of vitamin D status and other clinical characteristics with COVID-19 test results. JAMA network open, 3(9), pp.e2019722-e2019722. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2770157 

The New York Times is punking us with this piece, right? Are Private Messaging Apps the Next Misinformation Hot Spot? https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/03/technology/personaltech/telegram-signal-misinformation.html?searchResultPosition=1 

Brad Moon’s 5 types of snake locomotion: https://userweb.ucs.louisiana.edu/~brm2286/locomotn.htm <

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In this 65th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. In this episode, we begin by offering gratitude to Bill Maher and his crew for having us on on January 29—but why didn’t Heather answer his question about vaccines? She does so here, and we discuss a bit more about vaccine technology (also see episode 58 for more on that). Next: What does consensus look like in science, and when are we looking at forced consensus, one which may not accurately reflect underlying reality? What does this have to do with the “lab leak hypothesis” regarding the origin of SARS-CoV2? Following that: how does diet affect COVID—either in terms of mitigating risk of contracting it, or of reducing symptoms if you have it? Short advice: eat more ferment, and buy local. We finish by talking about tuna, and sea stars. 

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Mentioned in this episode: 

Dolgin 2020. COVID-19 vaccines poised for launch, but impact on pandemic unclear. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41587-020-00022-y 

Butler 2015. Engineered bat virus stirs debate over risky research. https://www.nature.com/news/engineered-bat-virus-stirs-debate-over-risky-research-%201.18787?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=commission_junction&utm_campaign=3_nsn6445_deeplink_PID100072647&utm_content=deeplink 

Relman 2020. Opinion: To stop the next pandemic, we need to unravel the origins of COVID-19. https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/117/47/29246.full.pdf 

Karesh et al 2012. Ecology of zoonoses: natural and unnatural histories. https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2812%2961678-X 

Bousquet et al 2020. Cabbage and fermented vegetables: From death rate heterogeneity in countries to candidates for mitigation strategies of severe COVID-19. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32762135/ 

Bousquet et al 2020. Is diet partly responsible for differences in COVID-19 death rates between and within countries? https://ctajournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13601-020-00323-0?fbclid=IwAR3ljFDFU6cI9Hg_NwvKFdPF6YhvRWGYiq2ddtNuSYfrJTUJ539V3Ml5Mvo 

Rishi et al 2020. Diet, Gut Microbiota and COVID-19. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33012868/ 

Iddir et al 2020. Strengthening the Immune System and Reducing Inflammation and Oxidative Stress through Diet and Nutrition: Considerations during the COVID-19 Crisis. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32471251/ 

There’s no tuna in my tuna! https://www.washingtonpost.com/food/2021/01/27/subway-tuna-lawsuit/ 

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