At this year’s KubeCon EU 2021, some things were the same — it was still virtual which meant it attracted a huge turnout of a more broadly international audience — and some things were different — like that almost everyone’s bought into Kubernetes and cloud native architecture, it’s now just how they use it. Another KubeCon tradition, The New Stack hosted a live pancake breakfast to reflect on the maturity of Kubernetes particularly around data persistence and storage.

Our Publisher Alex Williams hosted this year’s very early discussion (at least for him) with Itzik Reich, VP of technologists, and Nivas Iyer, senior principal product manager, both at Dell Technologies, along with pancakes regular Cheryl Hung, VP of ecosystem at the Cloud Native Computing Foundation.