Dave Foy's switch to Webflow

As designers or developers — even product makers — when WordPress is your hammer, everything looks like a nail.

WordPress is certainly in an inflection point. Where as the software is evolving, read: gutenberg + fullsite editing, the community of users grapple with what WordPress really is.

I feel like that’s a statement which has lingered in the air for a few years now. When you unlock it’s power of custom post types and fields with a dash of REST API magic, the CMS can become a neural network for your data. Yet with an interface that I struggle to drag a single block into the 3 column of my page layout.

Today’s guest has mastered the teachings of WordPress, specifically with Elementor for his students over the last few years but that usability struggle I mentioned earlier? Yeah…that’s caused him to pivot his teachings to a hosted platform you may have heard of before on the show before — Webflow.

Welcome today’s guest Dave Foye, as he unpacks the challenges of not only learning a new CMS, but the challenges of designing a curriculum for new students seeking to become proficient in it.

Episode transcript

[00:00:00] Dave: switching tools is, is not for the faint-hearted, it’s quite an expensive process, isn’t it? In terms of well sunk cost in terms of what you’ve already.

[00:00:08] Put into the amount of time and energy that you’ve put into learning tools that you’ve previously used. I also had have still, a multiple six figure a year business teaching WordPress teaching, very specific tools, WordPress and elements are, that combination elements or page builder.

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[00:01:27] As designers or developers, even product makers when WordPress is your hammer, everything looks like a nail. WordPress is certainly in an inflection point right now. Whereas the software is evolving Reed Gutenberg in full site, editing the community of users grapple with what WordPress really is. I feel like that’s a statement which has lingered in the air for a few years.

[00:01:50] When you unlock its power custom post types and fields with a dash of rest API magic, the CMS can become a neural network for your data yet with an interface that I struggle to drag and drop a single block into a third column of my page layout today’s guest has mastered the teachings of WordPress specifically with Elementor for his students over the last few years.

[00:02:12] But the