How can we create a meaningful life in a self-centered world? Have our societal notions of success misled us? How does connection underpin our sense of meaning? What practical skills do we need to understand other humans? And what do morals and values have to do with any of this?  

A few years ago, David Brooks, columnist & cultural commentator, experienced deep personal loss. He suddenly found himself emotionally at sea. As he looked for ways to keep his head afloat, he realized he wasn’t alone; that somehow many Americans had become disconnected from their families or beliefs or way of life. Brooks saw an America drifting from its values and morals, to the point that the basics of human relations were out of reach. Instead of moralizing, Brooks set out on a journey to find people who are truly connected and anchored, and to learn what they do and how they do it.  

In this episode, the Surgeon General and David Brooks dig into deep questions. In a world that can feel uncertain and pressured, this episode is a pause to ask what stories we tell, about ourselves and the world, and to think about what gives each of us a sense of meaning in our lives. 

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(03:33)    Why is America in a state of emotional pain? 

(00:08)    Can we even talk about morals, values, and social skills? 

(11:38)    People or government: where can we find moral support? 

(14:06)    Can AI provide emotional sustenance for humans? 

(17:56)    How can parents help kids build a moral foundation? 

(21:16)    Is being social a teachable skill? 

(25:03)    What is the “moral and relational hunger” that fascinates David Brooks? 

(27:52)    David Brooks’ personal quest to better relate to people. 

(29:30)    Can the pressure of striving de-humanize us? 

(31:25)    How can we be authentic in a world of likes and clicks? 

(35:06)    How do external notions of “success” shape us? 

(38:41)    What is the story of the Weavers? 

(42:38)    How can we build up the Weaver movement? 

(45:12)    How do we expand positive social norms? 

(48:45)    How's your social life? What keeps you from hosting gatherings? 

(55:47)    Can we connect across difference? 

(01:01:13)    Where does David Brooks find hope? 

(01:04:12)    Is faith a source of inspiration for David Brooks?  

David Brooks, Columnist

Twitter: @nytdavidbrooks 

Weave: the Social Fabric Project: @weavetheppl 

About David Brooks

David Brooks is a columnist for The New York Times and a contributor to The Atlantic. He is a commentator on “The PBS Newshour."  

His most recent book, “The Second Mountain,” shows what can happen when we put commitment-making and relationships at the center of our lives. He is also the author of “The Road to Character,” “Bobos In Paradise: The New Upper Class and How They Got There” and “The Social Animal: The Hidden Sources of Love, Character, and Achievement.” 

Mr. Brooks is on the faculty of Yale University and is a member of the American Academy of Arts & Sciences.