What's it like to get pounded by folks who passionately object to one's theological orthodoxy and political conservatism? And then to get mercilessly attacked for speaking out against the hypocrisy being exhibited by other supposed conservatives?

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In this much anticipated conversation with New York Times columnist David French, we discuss the health of democracy, judicial and political issues, potential outcomes of a second Trump presidency, and the complexities of interacting with opposing viewpoints. David shares personal anecdotes, including his wife Nancy French's battle with cancer, insights into dealing with dishonesty within political movements and religious communities, and how these latest chapters of American Christendom have tested his own faith.

We delve into

• The impact of polarized environments on political and social discourse 

David Lee Roth... no wait... David French! David French is an Opinion columnist with the New York Times who writes about faith, friendship, marriage and parenting as well as foreign affairs and the latest developments in American constitutional law. He also writes about religion in America, with a particular focus on the health of the evangelical church. David graduated from Harvard Law and was a commercial litigator for a number of years, and then ultimately switched to constitutional law. Remarkably, well into his legal career, David decided to serve our country as an Army lawyer with the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment in Diyala Province in Iraq during the height of the Surge in 2007. After spending much of his career defending free speech, religious freedom and due process in courtrooms across the country, David joined National Review as a senior writer, but left in 2019 to help start The Dispatch, a conservative media company, where he continues to contribute to their "flagship" podcast Advisory Opinions. He also became a contributing writer for The Atlantic. And just last year, he joined The Times.

03:53 David French on Personal and Family Challenges 

06:49 Faith and Role Models 

10:54 Navigating Faith and Politics 

20:19 Concerns About American Christendom 

33:42 Potential Threats of a Second Trump Term 

45:37 Supreme Court and Judicial Philosophy 

49:44 Classical Liberals vs. MAGA Conservatives 

50:18 Supreme Court Decisions Frustrating MAGA 

52:13 Thomas and Alito: MAGA's Favorite Justices? 

57:08 The Rahimi Case and Judicial Philosophy 

01:05:43 Breaking Out of Political Bubbles

01:07:59 Engaging with Opposing Views 

01:18:20 PCA Cancellation and Personal Reflections 

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