David Leonhardt is an editorial director for New York Times Opinion.

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and David Leonhardt discuss why the left is losing its appeal to the working classes in the United States and in Europe, the flaws in the Democratic Party’s approach to voters, and what U.S. Democrats can learn from the Social Democrats in Denmark.

Note: This interview was recorded on March 18, 2025.

Podcast production by Mickey Freeland and Leonora Barclay.

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