(00:00:00) Intro

(00:03:15) Sister Symmetry

(00:06:57) Silent Knight

(00:09:22) Exoristas

(00:11:16) Black Pirate

(00:14:41) Miss Liberty

(00:17:23) Whip Whirlwind/Quicksilver/Max Mercury

(00:25:39) Super Chief

(00:29:22) El-Diablo

(00:32:52) Hugo Danner

(00:41:08) The Ghost of Flanders

(00:44:22) Sandman

(00:47:26) Amazing Man

(00:52:10) Zatara

(00:56:47) Liberty Belle

(01:00:06) Bulletman/Bulletgirl

(01:04:19) TNT/Dyna-Mite

(01:10:00) Phantom Lady

(01:15:00) Atomic Knight

(01:16:59) Freedom Beast

(01:22:00) Wildcat

(01:31:00) Vibe

(01:37:00) Gunfire

(01:42:00) Maxwell Lord

In James Gunn's Superman a mural can be seen inside the Hall of Justice, headquarters of the working-titled superhero group The Justice Gang. On this mural are carefully-considered comic book heroes from DC's past, and we decided to go through them all, talk about who they are, and how they may fit into Gunn's burgeoning DC Universe.We're breaking down the mural and giving you the deets on Sister Symmetry, Silent Knight, Exoristos, Black Pirate, Miss Liberty, Whip Whirlwind/Quicksilver/Max Mercury, Super-Chief, El Diablo, Hugo Danner, The Ghost of Flanders, Sandman, Amazing Man, Zatara, Liberty Belle, Bulletman, Bulletgirl, TNT, Dyna-Mite, Phantom Lady, Atomic Knight, Freedom Beast, Wildcat, Vibe, Gunfire and of course Maxwell Lord!

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It's been a while since we did a news episode! For those of you encouraging us to keep it up with the long episodes, this one's for you! Just a warning though: Spoilers for Superman are abundant. Spoilers for Fantastic Four: First Steps are slight but there nonetheless. Here's the basic breakdown of the episode:

Superman

• Box Office
• Ratings Across Platforms
• "Superman" Breaks Preview Screening Record
• Supposedly What "Superman" Needs to Succeed
• James Gunn Pushes Back on High Superman Box Office Pressure
• Possible Spin-Offs for Jimmy and Mr. Terrific?
• James Gunn Explains Why He Turned Down Directing Superman at First
• Gunn Had Other Movies…
• Lex Suit Was Never in the Movie!
• James Gunn Reveals Scene Cut for Being Too Dark and Violent
• Other Hotly Contested Scenes
• Is Superman an Immigrant? (Yes)
• Define Sequel
• Gunn’s Secret Project Theory
• Will We See The Legion of Superheroes?
• Superman’s Easter Egg-Filled Hall of Justice Mural Is Finally Released Online
• Was the Dimensional Imp Mxyzptlk?
• Why Didn’t Supergirl Tell Superman About the Message?
• Superman’s Parents Came From Comics
• Will We See Ultraman Again?
• Was Superman Too Fast-Paced?
• Gunn Didn’t Want a Perfect Superman
• Will We See Eve Tesmacher’s Toes as a Blu Ray Extra?
• DCU Actor Says Superman Continuity Error Will Be Addressed in Next Appearance

Sandman

• Netflix’s Returning Dark DC Series Ranks High on Streamer’s Top 10 Chart
• Why We Aren't Paying Much Attention

Peacemaker

• Peacemaker 2 is a Superman Follow Up
• Other Unnamed People are in Peacemaker
• Superman Star Isabela Merced Teases Hawkgirl’s DCU Return in Peacemaker
• James Gunn Reveals Peacemaker Companion Series
• Peacemaker Dealing with DCEU?
• James Gunn Reveals Peacemaker Season 2 Theme at SDCC | https://youtu.be/Om_VWBua0_M
• James Gunn Calls Peacemaker Season 2 His Favorite Soundtrack (and Teases More Ozzy Osbourne)
• Peacemaker Season 2 Trailer | https://youtu.be/f6AZTfI54OU
• James Gunn Says Eagly is Better Than Krypto

Clayface

• James Gunn’s Tease for DC’s Clayface Movie

Lanterns

• Superman’s Nathan Fillion Drops F-Bombs in HBO’s Lanterns
• David Corenswet Might Have Spoiled a Huge Lanterns Cameo

Supergirl

• James Gunn Teases the DCU Krypton Scenes in Supergirl
• Supergirl Costume (Look Out)
• Krypto’s Fate

The Batman Part II

• The Batman 2 Finally Gets the Update DC Fans Have Been Waiting For
• Gunn Likes The Batman 2 Script

Black Superman

• Warner Bros. Reportedly Dismissed a Black Superman Movie For Being “Too Woke”

DCTea

• James Gunn Teases the DCU’s Main Character Isn’t Who Fans Think
• James Gunn Reveals Three Superhero Moments He Never Wants to See Again
• James Gunn Addresses if Superman, Batman, & Wonder Woman Appear Together in the DCU
• Batman Talk
• Reeves Batman and DCU Batman Probably Won’t Appear in the Same Calendar Year
• Will Batman Show Up Before Brave and the Bold?
• We Probably Won’t See Flash or Aquaman for Another Two years
• Gunn Comments on Keaton’s Blue and Gray Suit in The Flash
• Are WB Pushing Gunn for a Bunch of Things Post Superman?
• James Gunn Talks Godzilla Minus One With Director Takashi Yamazaki, Promises DC Studios Meeting
• Wonder Woman is Being Written
• James Gunn Teases Live-Action Debut of an Important DC Amazon
• James Gunn Addresses Major DC Casting Rumor
• The Authority and Another Unannounced Project
• Swamp Thing Update
• Waller Still in Development
• Creature Commandos Season 2 Will Have a Big Change DC Fans Did Not See Coming
• SGT Rock Update
• Barbarian and Weapons Director Wrote a Gotham DC Movie
• Booster Gold Back in the Mix
• How Gunn Told Cavill He Was No Longer Superman
• DC Boss James Gunn Confirms Two Movies Aren’t Canon in the DCU
• Aztec Batman: Clash of Empires Trailer | https://youtu.be/-bd_AUSkrRA
• DC Drops a Bunch of Fan-Favorite Animated Movies on Streaming for Free

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We liked it the first time, but we decided we needed to go back with clear minds and have another go to see how the second viewing hit! We talk about stuff we missed the first time around, things we liked more, theories for what's coming next and listener reactions!

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We have finally seen James Gunn's Superman! The spoiler-free segment is up first for those who haven't seen the film, and then we get into spoilers in a big bad way!

Go see the film! It's full of heart and unlike any superhero film we've seen thus far!

"Call to Adventure" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Welp we finally went back for Bryan Singer's "Superman Returns"! Is it a sequel, reboot, rehash?Should this film be more divisive than "Man of Steel"? Should it have had a sequel?

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Jason and Dave discuss their thoughts about Superman III and share some fun trivia! Yeah, I know that's a short description, but that's pretty much what it is. Joking about the film, praising Richard Pryor, making fun of Lana's kid and rarely calling him the correct name... that sorta thing.

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Talk about a double-sized issue -- we effed 'round and made a 3-hour show! Here's all the DC stuff we talked about (and you know us, we did stray a mite here and there...):Superman

• The Opening Weekend Tracking is All Over the Place
• Gunn Pushes Back on Box Office Expectations
• New Poster for 'Superman' Evokes '78
• Why is Supes Weaker in This Outing?
• We Have Confirmation of Guardians Stars
• Weird Wall-Eyed Superman Shot Isn't in the Movie
• How Does the World Not See Past the Glasses?
• Why the Naysayers Are Yay for Gunn
• Gunn's Way into Lex Luthor

Supergirl

• Lobo Changes Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow's Story
• When James Saw Milly
• The Movie is Just Called 'Supergirl' Now

Clayface

• 'Clayface' is Intended to Be R-Rated
• Matt Hagen Has Been Cast!

The Batman Part II

• Gunn Defends Reeves: "Get Off Matt's Nuts!"
• Gunn Maintains Reeves' Batman is NOT DCU!

Mister Miracle

• 'Mister Miracle' Adult Animated Series Announced!
• Comic Writer Tom King to Act as Showrunner!
• Listen to Our Patreon Review of Tom King's "Mister Miracle" Book!

Batman Ninja Vs Yakuza League

• Official Streaming Date

WBTea

• Guillermo del Toro Has Never Mentioned 'Justice League Dark' to Gunn!
• Dead is Dead in DCU
• Secret Projects Are Being Written! (One is Gunn's Favorite!)
• James Gunn Clears Up Batman’s DCU Timeline
• A “Very Famous Movie Actor” Is Writing an Elseworlds Film for DC
• James Gunn Reveals Whether Matt Reeves’ Batman Villains Can Appear in the DCU
• Batman Needs a Reason to Exist
• Gunn Dispelled Rumors About Teen Titans and Batman Casting
• James Gunn’s DC Studios Just Killed a DCU Project
• 'Paradise Lost' TV Show Gets an Exciting Update
• 'Sgt. Rock' Gets Encouraging Update
• What “Killed” the MCU (and How DC Will Avoid It)
• James Gunn Teases Marvel/DC Crossover Could “Easily” Happen

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Rolling Stone
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With all the greatest love and admiration and with respect to all the behind-the-scenes skullduggery that took place while this film was made, we talk about Superman II -- the theatrical (Richard Lester) cut with comparison to The Donner Cut (because the seams were too unseemly and Dave went back and subsequently found it impossible to ignore in this discussion).We can't help but have real issues with Superman II...

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Okay, so we're discussing the trailers, but we're also talking about Gunn's admission that a new 'Wonder Woman' is being written among other crazy things! Can't wait to see what this universe has in store, but here's everything we're talking this episode:

• Pre-Sale Superman Ticket Orders Crash Fandango and Sell Out
• Superman's First Day Pre-Sale Tickets Beat Everyone This Year So Far
• Some Comments on The International Trailer
• Review of The Final Trailer
• No Justice League ... Yet
• Gunn Says Wonder Woman is Being Written
• Gunn is Working on a Superman Sequel ... Kinda
• Metahumans Have Been Known for 300 Years in DCU
• Who Are the Justice Gang?
• Gunn's Post-Credit Opinions
• The Batman Part II Is Still Important

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Great Rao! This episode was recorded over 3 separate days, but we're full of questions that get answered, rumors that get ruined, and runtimes that get sorted! We also have fun theories and a lot of laughs as we discuss the following:Okay, no laughs over the first bit... that was actually quite sad...

• Saying Goodbye to Peter David

Superman

• Early Screenings
• Spoilers Abound in Your Local Big Box Store
• Theory: Is Ultraman the Hammer of Boravia?
• No, That Wasn't Bizarro in the Trailer
• Hawkgirl’s “Really Dark” DCU Backstory
• No, Lex is Not President
• Rumored Run Time
• Did WB Make Gunn Cut 25 Minutes?
• Guy's Character is Based on a Golden Girl
• BTS Footage with Children
• James Gunn Says "Superman" Is Inspired by "Godzilla Minus One"
• "Smallville" Star Confirms DC Return in "Superman"
• "Superman"’s Official Rating
• Superman Movie Reveals New Character Posters
• James Gunn Comments on "Superman" vs. "Fantastic Four" Box Office Rivalry
• Gunn Releases Short Behind-the-Scenes Videos on Guy Gardner and Robot #4 | https://www.threads.com/@jamesgunn/post/DKfcCaIP6Et?xmt=AQF0cqiUrm72s-qemDbk1lXXXXRYrRngDjlSB3cYNFYcpA | https://www.threads.com/@jamesgunn/post/DKfOa8VP9Ld?xmt=AQF0cqiUrm72s-qemDbk1lXXXXRYrRngDjlSB3cYNFYcpAGunn Debunks Rumors He Was Made to Cut "Superman"
• Real "Superman" Runtime Revealed!
• Gunn Announces "Superman" is Locked!

Peacemaker

• "Peacemaker"’s Connection to "Superman" Is Deeper Than DC Fans Thought
• A Big Cameo
• The New "Peacemaker" Opening Dance Sequence Will Debut at Comic Con
• "Peacemaker" is the Only Property Being Brought to Comic Con
• James Gunn Says How Many Years Have Passed Since Season 1
• First Look at Michael Rooker as Eagly’s Nemesis

• James Gunn Comments on DCU Batman vs. Peacemaker Fight (& John Cena Responds)
• Is Peacemaker a Hero?
• "Peacemaker" Season 2 Behind-the-Scenes Video Reveals New Characters Joining DC Universe

Supergirl

• "Supergirl" Has Wrapped Production

Clayface

• Mike Flanagan Wrote "Clayface" Based on "Feat of Clay"

Constantine 2

• Keanu Reeves Isn't 'Happy' With the "Constantine 2" Scripts in Development

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