Belfast rock duo Dea Matrona join Mark Millar on the XS Noize Podcast to discuss their second album, Hate That I Care — a bold, more personal and self-assured new chapter for Mollie McGinn and Orláith Forsythe.

Written, recorded and produced entirely by the band, Hate That I Care finds Dea Matrona leaning further into alt-rock while exploring vulnerability, identity, pressure, friendship, self-production and the feeling of not fitting neatly into other people's expectations.

In this conversation, Mollie and Orláith look back on what they learned from their debut album, For Your Sins, how that record helped them understand who Dea Matrona were, and why Hate That I Care feels like the album where they are now telling people who they really are.

They discuss the title track, which Mollie describes as being written to herself, the exhaustion of masking emotions, and how the album became a way of processing difficult feelings through songwriting.

The conversation also explores "My Own Party" and the powerful line "always feeling like an outsider at my own party," the heavier emotional world of "John Doe," the deeply personal story behind "Aisling," and the moment "Magic Spell" helped unlock the direction of the record.

Mollie and Orláith also talk about producing the album themselves, writing and finishing music while on tour, their creative partnership, the early school-day rivalry that turned into a band, and how they continue to push each other as writers, musicians and producers.

They also reflect on Dea Matrona's journey from busking in Belfast to playing Reading and Leeds, Electric Picnic and Rock Werchter, touring with The Beaches, and preparing to join Sting on tour across Europe.

As Orláith says near the end of the conversation: "For Your Sins was introducing who we are, and Hate That I Care is telling you who we are."

Listen to episode #289 of the XS Noize Podcast with Dea Matrona.