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“Debate: Get a college degree?” by Ben Pace, Saul Munn


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Epistemic Status: Soldier mindset. These are not our actual positions, these are positions we were randomly assigned by a coin toss, and for which we (quickly) searched for the strongest arguments we could find over the course of ~1hr 45mins. That said, this debate got a little messy between our performed positions and our personal ones.

Sides: Ben is arguing against getting a college degree, and Saul is arguing for. (This is a decision Saul is currently making for himself!)

Reading Order: Ben and Saul drafted each round of statements simultaneously. This means that each of Ben's statements you read are written without having read Saul's statements that are immediately proceeding. (This does not apply to the back-and-forth interview.)

Saul's Opening Statement

Saul Munn

first — i do think there's a qualitative difference between the position “getting an undergrad degree is good” vs “getting the typical undergrad experience is good.” [...]

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Outline:

(00:59) Sauls Opening Statement

(04:31) Bens Opening Statement

(11:31) Ben interviews Saul

(17:41) Saul interviews Ben

(24:33) Sauls Rebuttal

(26:56) Bens Rebuttal

(30:22) Sauls Closing Statement

(34:26) Bens Closing Statement

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First published:

August 12th, 2024

Source:

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/4GRKshbGWnXGjSiBe/debate-get-a-college-degree

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Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.

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