In episode 9 of DEEP Dive, Dr. Sajjan Gohel speaks to Elisabeth Braw, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), where she focuses on defence against emerging national security challenges, such as hybrid and grey zone threats. They discuss the Russian invasion of Ukraine, how it was planned, and what may happen next. 

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In episode 8 of DEEP Dive, Dr. Sajjan Gohel speaks to Jessica Davis, the President of Insight Threat Intelligence, and President of the Canadian Association for Security and Intelligence Studies. They discuss the different methods of terrorist financing as well as the current related developments around the world. Jessica had senior roles at Canada’s financial intelligence unit, FINTRAC, and the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS). Jessica is also the author of Women in Modern Terrorism as well as Illicit Money.

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In episode 7 of DEEP Dive, Dr. Sajjan Gohel speaks to Edmund Fitton-Brown, the Coordinator of the United Nations Analytical Support and Sanctions Monitoring Team. His remit focuses on the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant, al-Qaeda, the Taliban, as well as associated individuals, groups, undertakings, and entities. They discuss the current and emerging terrorist challenges across the world.

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In episode 6 of DEEP Dive, Dr. Sajjan Gohel speaks to Bruce Riedel, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. He was also Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for the Near East and South Asia at the Pentagon, and a senior advisor to NATO. They discuss the situation in Afghanistan-Pakistan, the security challenges in Yemen and the current state of international terrorism. Bruce is the author of several books including The Search for al Qaeda, Deadly Embrace, Avoiding Armageddon, JFK's Forgotten Crisis, and Kings and Presidents.

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In episode 5 of DEEP Dive, Dr. Sajjan Gohel speaks to Clint Watts, a Distinguished Research Fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute and Non-Resident Fellow at the Alliance for Securing Democracy. They discuss disinformation warfare campaigns by state actors and how Russia and China are asserting themselves globally both militarily and through technology. Clint is the author of Messing With The Enemy: Surviving in a Social Media World of Hackers, Terrorists, Russians and Fake News.

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In episode 4 of DEEP Dive, Dr. Sajjan Gohel speaks to Sebastian Rotella, a senior investigative journalist at ProPublica. They discuss Sebastian's ground-breaking reporting of the Mumbai siege terror attacks, new revelations that have emerged surrounding 9/11, the concerning presence of Jihadist groups in Latin America, and the rising importance of the US-China rivalry. Sebastian has penned three novels: Rip Crew, The Convert’s Song, and Triple Crossing. He is also the author of Twilight on the Line. 

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In episode 3 of DEEP Dive, Dr. Sajjan Gohel speaks to Douglas London, a retired senior officer with the CIA, who is currently with Georgetown University’s Centre for Security Studies and the Middle East Institute. He is also the author of The Recruiter: Spying and the Lost Art of American Intelligence. Douglas and Sajjan address the value of human intelligence, the security challenges in Afghanistan and Pakistan, the importance of the Haqqani Network and its convergence with al-Qaeda, and the regional agendas of Russia and China. 

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In episode 2 of DEEP Dive, Dr. Sajjan Gohel speaks to Neil Basu, who is the Assistant Commissioner for the British Metropolitan Police and has served as the head of Specialist Operations for the United Kingdom’s law enforcement agencies. Neil and Sajjan look at how policing has evolved in terms of operations and recruitment, as well as the prevalent terrorist threats facing the United Kingdom, the pandemic’s impact on counter-terrorism, and potential consequences of the Western withdrawal from Afghanistan.

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In episode 1 of DEEP Dive, Dr. Sajjan Gohel is joined by critically acclaimed author, journalist, and practitioner Tim Marshall, whose books include Worth Dying For: The Power and Politics of Flags, Prisoners of Geography, and The Power of Geography. Tim and Sajjan discuss the important developments that will take place in the Indo-Pacific region this decade, the growing importance of the Quad, and how Afghanistan will serve as a platform for terrorism following the Taliban's takeover. 

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DEEP Dive is a brand new podcast series from NATO's Defence Education Enhancement Programme (DEEP). Each episode provides commentary on a variety of subjects covering international security and defence, counter-terrorism, and geopolitical current events. The primary purpose of this series is to inform and enhance understanding of the prevailing global challenges.

DEEP Dive seeks to engage and draw on the experiences of academics, journalists and policy practitioners. The goal is also to learn more about those being interviewed in order to provide a unique perspective on what has shaped their careers as well as to discuss their current and future research.