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Corey is off this week, so Chris is joined by Derrick Reimer, founder of SavvyCal. They chat about building and scaling SaaS products, making early hires, onboarding developers, and indulge in a bit of tech stack discussion.

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Notable mentions:

• SavvyCal
• Art of Product Podcast
• Derrick's Twitter
• More podcasts for bootstrappers

Learn more about their businesses:

• Swipe Files
• Jetboost

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• @coreyhainesco
• @c_spags

Corey trades notes with another community manager and creates a timeline for course updates. Chris wrestles over how to handle an extremely large potential customer. They also talk about shipping speed, Twitter threads, and building a more calm company.

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Notable mentions:

• Email Chris about the future of Jetboost: [email protected]
• Max Haining of 100 Days of No Code
• Justin Jackson's Product People podcast
• Typefully
• More podcasts for bootstrappers

Learn more about their businesses:

• Swipe Files
• Jetboost

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• @coreyhainesco
• @c_spags

Corey deals with some dog issues and offers landing page audits. Chris makes a key new hire and is excited to push Jetboost forward faster. They also talk about founder archetypes, handling chaos in the early days, and how to get big customers to let you use their logo.

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Notable mentions:

• Corey's landing page audit offer
• There Are Four Types Of Founders…Which One Are You?
• April Dunford's tweet about using customer logos
• Potion
• Noah Bragg
• More podcasts for bootstrappers

Learn more about their businesses:

• Swipe Files
• Jetboost

Follow them on Twitter:

• @coreyhainesco
• @c_spags

Corey writes his first angel checks and talks about how high the bar is these days for content creation. Chris puts work on the back burner for a week to resolve some personal issues. They also talk about what they do for fun and the dynamics of being an investor with an audience.

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Notable mentions:

• Outseta
• Chris Cantino's tweet
• More podcasts for bootstrappers

Learn more about their businesses:

• Swipe Files
• Jetboost

Follow them on Twitter:

• @coreyhainesco
• @c_spags

Corey struggles with his own community activity and gives an update on a cohort-based course. Chris successfully ships a major Jetboost update and levels up his Google Analytics skills. They also discuss bootstrapper funding and not feeling all that motivated for work as Covid restrictions end and summer begins.

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Notable mentions:

• Jetboost now 2-3x faster!
• SureSwift Capital
• Collab Capital
• Justin Jackson interviews Jason Calacanis (2013): Part 1, Part 2
• More podcasts for bootstrappers

Learn more about their businesses:

• Swipe Files
• Jetboost

Follow them on Twitter:

• @coreyhainesco
• @c_spags

Corey contemplates spending longer, focused time on big projects instead of juggling multiple projects at once. Chris feels like he's currently floundering a bit while jumping from one thing to the next. They also talk about competition, angel investing, and Berkshire Hathaway.

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Notable mentions:

• MegaMaker podcast
• Acquired podcast
• Patrick Campbell tweeting that Corey is "underrated"
• More podcasts for bootstrappers

Learn more about their businesses:

• Swipe Files
• Jetboost

Follow them on Twitter:

• @coreyhainesco
• @c_spags

Corey shares the (candidly disappointing) results of opening enrollment for Swipe Files courses. Chris has a mostly heads down week while working on a big infrastructure update. They also talk about some potential pivots for Swipe Files and paying for SaaS products.

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Notable mentions:

• Cold Turkey Blocker
• Noah Bragg on Nathan Latka podcast
• More podcasts for bootstrappers

Learn more about their businesses:

• Swipe Files
• Jetboost

Follow them on Twitter:

• @coreyhainesco
• @c_spags

Corey reaches a Twitter following milestone and opens up enrollment for his courses. Chris celebrates a milestone and ramps up hiring for Jetboost. They also discuss burnout, launching on Product Hunt, and hiring VAs.

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Notable mentions:

• Mental Models For Marketing
• Refactoring Growth
• https://share.swipefiles.com
• Squared Away
• Missive
• Help Doc Hero
• More podcasts for bootstrappers

Learn more about their businesses:

• Swipe Files
• Jetboost

Follow them on Twitter:

• @coreyhainesco
• @c_spags

Corey tests the waters with a "marketing bootcamp" cohort-based course and begins onboarding a virtual assistant. Chris has a surprisingly calm week. They also answer a listener question about how to evaluate new product ideas.

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Notable mentions:

• Marketing Bootcamp cohort-based course
• ORB Framework
• Content Remix
• 10 Questions for Teasing Out Market Opportunities
• 30x500
• More podcasts for bootstrappers

Learn more about their businesses:

• Swipe Files
• Jetboost

Follow them on Twitter:

• @coreyhainesco
• @c_spags

Corey accidentally starts a Twitter growth challenge with 100+ people. Chris ships off the Modkit update and has to send a difficult email to customers. They also talk about the hedonic treadmill of revenue growth and the myth of passive income.

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Notable mentions:

• ZipMessage
• Be the first to join the waitlist for Corey's Marketing Bootcamp
• Modkit for Webflow update
• More podcasts for bootstrappers

Learn more about their businesses:

• Swipe Files
• Jetboost

Follow them on Twitter:

• @coreyhainesco
• @c_spags