In this episode, we dive deep into the obscure and over-the-top 1988 horror film ‘Demonwarp.’

Join us as we explore the film’s bizarre plot twists, including Bigfoot creatures, zombies, and alien priests. We discuss the movie’s low-budget charm, wacky special effects, and the often confusing storyline that makes it a true gem for fans of 80s horror. Tune in for our full breakdown and plenty of laughs as we navigate this wild ride of a movie. Don’t miss it!

Episode 446, 2 Guys and a Chainsaw Horror Movie Review Podcast

Todd: Hello and welcome to another episode of Two Guys and a Chainsaw. I’m Todd.

Craig: And I’m Craig.

Todd: Alright. We are gonna get going today with a, I think, obscure horror film from the eighties. This is a movie that I selected. It’s been bouncing around on a list of mine for a while. I see it brought up every now and then, and I’ve always been curious about it because it’s a little more obscure.

I don’t remember seeing the box art for this on the video store shelves, or if I did it, I don’t know. It’s just kind of passed me by, but here we are. I think that the most interesting thing about it initially going in is the fact that it stars one of our favorite actors who’s always in these movies.

George, I’ll do anything for Aze Kennedy. Yeah, and this is 1980 eight’s Demon Warp, and it has a really interesting story behind it. 

Craig: I had never heard of it. I don’t know. I think it just must have been fairly obscure. ’cause this seems like the kind of movie that I probably would have rented, 

Todd: right? Yeah, 

Craig: based on the box art.

Now I’ve seen lots of different box art, but I think the most. Popular one has what looks very much like a Bigfoot on it. And, uh, I don’t know, demon Warp is a great name. That alone I probably would’ve been intrigued by, but no, I, I don’t recall ever having heard of it. It’s really not streaming anywhere.

It’s, it’s difficult to find. Yeah. 

Todd: It is surprisingly, 

Craig: I think we found it on YouTube, but you sent me a link to it. I don’t know if you had to dive deep for it. ’cause when I just looked for it on YouTube myself, I just found stuff about it. I had to follow your link to get to it, but it is there and the quality is okay.

I, I have a feeling that the original quality probably isn’t great, but it’s, it’s interesting. 

Todd: Yeah, it sure is. This is the 1988, so this is right in the middle of the video boom. And the genesis of this project was, it was, uh, something that Vidmark put together, Vidmark, which later became TriMark, um, was a video, uh, distributor.

And as we’ve talked about on previous episodes and with different movies that we’ve discussed, this was a time where you could make almost anything and instantly get distribution for it because the video rental market was so hungry for films, especially genre films that they were buying anything. And so it was kind of a golden age.

And you’ve got people like Charles Band and Fred Oland Ray out there producing stuff. Specifically to tap into this market, Vidmark decided they were gonna try to get in on to producing films that they had been previously only distributing, and this is one of their earliest ones. And I think that the history behind it is really interesting because it was originally a script by.

John Carl Buckler, who we’ve talked about a number of times on this podcast as recently as Giess, right? Mm-hmm. He was the special effects artist, a creature artist behind, uh, Giess, your favorite film troll. Mm-hmm. The Garbage Male Kids movies, a whole bunch of stuff Charles band put out. And, uh, he was originally slated to direct it as well, so he wrote this script and he was slated to direct it, and Jack Palas of all people was slated to star in it.

And Jack Palas bowed out because he decided, you know what? I’m not gonna make these kind of movies anymore. John Buckler got pulled away to do Friday the 13th, part seven, right? Much, much bigger project with a much, much bigger budget. You can’t blame him for that. But he left behind a few creature designs.

He had made a Bigfoot type monster, an alien type monster, a mummy type monster puppet that was intended to be used in the film and apparently also left behind a script that was absolutely a mess. And so it was kind of rescued by the producer Richard Albert, who was actually the head of a very, very famous and extremely successful advertising company for all the major studios put together advertising campaigns for tons of movies for these studios.

And, uh, he just sicked two of his copywriters on this. And in between, you know, them setting up poster art and, and writing ad copy and all that stuff, they managed to take his script and bang out different one that wrote around the now limited budget that they now had for the movie. And these. Creature designs that they had for the movie.

Basically, you know, writing for what you now have available to you, which is a smart thing to do. And these two guys who had no previous experience writing a movie put together this thing and got quite a few names in it, besides George Kennedy. I was kind of surprised at the people who ended up popping up on the screen.

Craig: Yeah, I know you’re gonna tell me about at least one of these ladies. What 

Todd: makes you say that? Because 

Craig: I, I don’t know, I was reading, you know, some review or, or something and it mentions this lady’s name who, and I think all the girls in this, women in this movie. Take their tops off at some point, which is great.

Love it. But there was one actress in particular that this reviewer was excited about, so I’m sure there’s some connection to her. The only other person, you know, they all kinda looked like typical. It’s the typical group of teenagers. 

Todd: Yeah. 

Craig: And I, I feel like it’s also fairly typical to have two couples and a goofy third wheel guy, and that’s.

Or fourth wheel or whatever, fifth, whatever. And that guy is you. You’ll get it right away. I got it eventually. That’s Tom played by Billy Jane, who is the, really the only one that I recognize and I get, I don’t get excited, but it always makes me smile when he pops up in these movies too. Just ’cause I think that he’s goofy and funny.

Yeah, and that’s the role that he plays in this movie, the goofy funny one. And I liked him fine. I didn’t recognize any of the other main cast. There’s, I mean there’s probably what, like 10 people in the whole thing? Yeah, it took me a minute to get all their names, but once I caught all their names, they were pretty easy to keep track of 

Todd: their name’s.

Tom Fred. Jack. Cindy. 

Craig: Cindy and Carrie and Ju. I know Bill. Julie. Like all the Mo. Yeah. Seriously, 

Todd: Betsy. 

Craig: That was funny. What was interesting to me about this and those movies that you mentioned that I really like, like Gooeys and Troll, there’s a lot of that here, especially in the first three quarters of the movie.

I guess what was interesting to me was this felt like, to me, a fairly typical eighties horror movie for most of it. I mean, there were some interesting things going on and some weird, goofy things going on that I want to talk about, but it felt fairly typical for a while, and then seemingly out of nowhere it just goes.

In 14 different directions all at the same time.

Todd: It’s so nuts. It’s weird, it’s so nuts. I was able to track down an interview with one of those screenwriters that was, uh, hired on and he had a lot of stuff, a lot of interesting behind the scenes stuff to talk about with this movie. First of all, he said the original script they got was a mess. It had everything.

And the kitchen sink thrown in. It was like aliens and zombies and a cult and a mummy and bigfoot all wrapped up in one. And it kind of ended up that way in a way. Uhhuh more or less, but probably you, they said honestly, because he was slated to direct it, you could kind of tell that he might have just written the script more as notes for himself than as something that somebody else was actually supposed to read and decipher.

Mm-hmm. But they said it made no, like, the characters had no motivation. They were not drawn out at all. Things just seemed to happen for reasons that, you know, you couldn’t really explain. Which to be fair is a lot of these movies, people 

Craig: would just pop in to, you know, get killed basically. Like I, I did read some reviews of the original script and I read that too.

Mm-hmm. That it, it, it didn’t seem, yeah, it seemed more like a collection of ideas rather than. A story and the review that, and I, I, I think it’s something that you sent to me, so I’m sure you probably read it too. They just, it just was not well written. Yeah. And, you know, whatever. I wouldn’t be super judgy about this, but they’re like, it was full of typos and, and misspellings and who cares?

Not all creatives have to be good spellers. Yeah. But I, I think the point was it didn’t seem like. Perhaps a lot of care had been taken in it and, and you know, you said not a lot of development to the characters or whatever. No. They were basically just to come in to take their clothes off and have steamy sex scenes and get picked off by this hodgepodge of stuff.

Todd: Yeah. I was surprised of the breast quotient in this movie. Like, you know, it’s not atypical for a movie from this era, but it, it’s like a Fred Oland Ray movie. It’s like every girl, but one takes her top off. And guess who that is? 

Craig: I don’t know. 

Todd: Tara, one of the two girls who comes in looking for their, their little secret garden.

Are you 

Craig: sure she doesn’t? I thought she did. Maybe not. 

Todd: No, I guess I thought Michelle Bauer is the one girl you were referring to earlier. She plays Betsy, her friend. 

Craig: Yes. Yes. And 

Todd: Michelle Bauer is like a fricking scream queen. She lya Quigley. They were in a ton of the same movies together. We saw her take her top off in sorority babes in the slime ball.

Borama doesn’t surprise me with Linea Quigley. She came out of, it’s interesting. If you look at her filmography, she sure was in a lot of adult films. However, she claims that although she was in those movies, anytime there was a sex scene, she insisted on a double being used. So I’m surprised by that. But that’s what she claims.

But she was on the covers. She was a model and you know, she ended up as a one of the big scream queens of the eighties and nineties. So good for her. Yeah. 

Craig: And she, I mean, she doesn’t have a whole lot to do, but run around with her boobs out. But I’m not surprised to hear that she’s been in all those things because she’s very beautiful.

She is a very, very beautiful woman. Yeah. But I’m also not surprised that I didn’t recognize her because, and I don’t mean this as any kind of insult, but she’s kind of generically beautiful. She’s not some, yeah. Lan Quigley stands out like, yeah, you recognize her. This woman is beautiful, but she’s just another beautiful brunette woman with big boobs.

It’s true, but good. Again, good for her. That’s a great career. Seriously, I’m not being ironic. Good for her. 

Todd: No, I know. Good for her for sure. Yeah, I’m, I’m kind of ashamed to say it, but I almost have to be reminded who she is. ’cause you’re right, she often appears in the same movies along with a lot of the other same screen queens and they all are very same samey looking.

They’ve got the same implants, they’ve got kind of the same hair, the same makeup and everything like that, except for Quigley. She just stands out ’cause she’s, she’s so distinct. But no, her, her partner in this who was Tara, was George Kennedy’s daughter Shannon Kennedy. And one of his stipulations of him working on this movie was that they cast his daughter in it.

And so apparently she, she wouldn’t take her top off, but they pulled her head off as a instead. So that was, they got about halfway down. 

Craig: That, that was one of my favorite, that was one of my favorite kills. It was one of the ones that I thought looked the best 

Todd: in a way. She had her top taken off just a different top.

Craig: That’s very clever. I hope you had that written down. I don’t know, we’ve already, gosh, we, we have to get to the plot. ’cause I feel like it’s important in this movie. Is it? Or isn’t it? The plot. Plot is something 

Todd: else. I’m not sure if it’s that important, but it’s, it’s all over the place. You’d almost need somebody to decipher the plot for you.

Well, I mean, it’s very straightforward. It’s just head scratching. Yeah. At times. Why, why certain things are happening and where this is all leading. Yeah. 

Craig: Yeah. And I also felt like there was some odd things happening that I still didn’t understand that I want to ask you about, but frankly, the movie is too long.

Todd: Yeah. It 

Craig: needed to get to the wackiness. Faster. Yes. Okay. Maybe we can get through the first part of it kind of quickly. I don’t know. I always say that and then I ramble and ramble. It starts out in the desert with this guy who is dressed old timey, I guess, and is like reading from his Bible and singing Amazing Grace.

So long time ago 

Todd: I was, I was thinking Mormon real quick. I don’t know 

Craig: about 

Todd: you. Like I didn’t know what I was, I had no idea what 

Craig: was going on. Who knows? Um, but I assumed that we were being signaled that this is the past. Yeah, great. Fine. So we just watch him look to the sky and, and trace with his eyes something across the sky and something crashes and he goes over to it and it looks like it’s created a, a debris path.

And at the end where it’s stopped, it’s been almost entirely covered with earth, with dirt, but it looks like some sort of giant sphere. As big as a what? Three, four. Story building. It’s huge. 

Todd: Yeah. Something like that. 

Craig: Well they try, they try to show us perspective. ’cause they show the guy walking up to it and he’s teeny tiny walking up to it.

Todd: Yeah. They’ve got a very cool, um, and Fred o and Ray likes to do this in his movies and Charles band does as well where they’ll take like a little model and they’ll put it in front of the camera, kind of like incorporate it into the environment. It’s a real cheap way of getting kind of a bigger budget look giant set in.

Yeah. Like a live matte painting or whatever. 

Craig: Yeah. I love that stuff. Mm-hmm. I love it. 

Todd: It’s cool. 

Craig: Then it just immediately cuts to the woods and. A synth score, which I’m always a big fan of, and then the title, 

Todd: Ugh. But di wasn’t this score driving you crazy? It was driving me 

Craig: nuts. I don’t even, after a while, I don’t remember thinking anything about it after just being like, oh, okay, this is what we’re getting right here in the beginning.

What bothered you about it? 

Todd: I don’t know. It just never let up. It was like gr and after a while just felt very grinding. Like it felt like every second of this movie was scored. I may be wrong about it, maybe there was a reprieve, but I just, after a while, I’m sorry to say, it kind of felt like my ears were being assaulted.

That was just my, my feeling of it. Maybe it was the sinness too. It’s all these high notes and things, and it, it, it, although I normally love a sense score from an eighties movie, this one was just a bit much, it would bother me so much. I’m sorry, I sound like really grumpy dude. But it bothered me so much that I looked up the composer, Dan Slider, and the other score that he did after this was.

Uninvited. Do you remember that one? Yeah. About the, the cat mut Mutant cat on the boat. I love that. Also starring George Kennedy. Oh, that’s right. Yep, yep. I remember the score. And that being very distinct as well. Yeah, with the, remember with the cat meows and stuff? It, so for for sure it tracks, it was on brand for Dan Slider.

That’s funny. 

Craig: I don’t know if we mentioned that the director is Emmett Alston, who also directed New Year’s Evil, I think. I’m pretty sure it was New Year’s E. 

Todd: Yes. 

Craig: New Year’s Evil. I’m evil.

So, 

Todd: and then went on to do a bunch of Ninja movies after that. I have a soft spot in my heart for eighties ninja movies, so it kind of made me wanna seek out his other ones, especially if they’re more or less like this one. I think I’ll enjoy ’em. Yeah. ‘

Craig: cause this has fun stuff going on in it. Like it’s, it’s weird.

I wish that I hadn’t read the IMDB summary, because I think it would’ve been more fun to be surprised, and we’ve already spoiled things. I mean, it, it, it gets crazy, but the IMDB summary starts out with Bill and his daughter are enjoying their time in a cabin when they’re attacked by what they think is Bigfoot type creature.

But then they start to suspect that maybe there’s aliens or something like that. Like, and, and that it gives too much away. Thank God I didn’t read it. This, this movie takes at least an hour to build to that twist. And if you’ve waited that long for it, it’s then it’s kind of disappointing. 

Todd: Well, you’re marching through a lot of boring stuff up to that point.

I mean, and it’s all very. The movie doesn’t have a lot of style in the shooting, honestly, it’s kind of pedestrian. This Emmett Alston, apparently, according to this screenwriter again, said he was a nice enough guy. People would like the fact that he was very workmanlike and he could get through things pretty quickly, but he also seemed very disinterested in what he was doing and just thought it was kind of bland.

And, uh, he wasn’t even entirely familiar with the story. Like this guy said at one point that, uh, this guy was more or less reading the trades while his DP set up and blocked most of the shots for him. So 

Craig: I think it’s fine. I think it’s fine. Like 

Todd: it’s okay. It’s fine for this era. 

Craig: Exactly. Well, for this era, it’s.

Not bad. Like we, we actually Right. Have seen in terms of acting and, and filming and effects, it is not bad. We have seen far worse and it’s not terribly boring. It just goes on too long. 

Todd: Yeah. 

Craig: If they had taken this first part, okay. So George, George Kennedy and his daughter get attacked and she gets immediately killed, which the thing was misleading too.

The synopsis made it sound like he and his daughter were then gonna start investigating. That’s not what happens at all. We immediately cut away from them after she’s dead, and this Bigfoot monster drags her away. Then we meet these five assholes in a van. 

Todd: Yep. It’s your bunch of assholes in a van drive driving to a cabin in the woods, 

Craig: right?

Yeah. Difficult and it’s, and it’s two couples and Billy Jane. They get to this cabin, the exact same cabin that we already saw somebody get attacked in same, same cabin. Uh, a Friday the 13th, one of the Friday the 13th was filmed in this cabin too. I don’t remember which one. 

Todd: The final chapter. Which one is that?

The fourth one? Final chapter. 

Craig: Yeah, that sounds right. I think it was the fourth one. Final. I can’t remember. So they all get there and turns out one of them is Jack. Jack. It’s his uncle’s cabin only his girlfriend Carrie, who is a curly haired brunette. That’s, I, I could only identify them by their hair.

But Jack and Carrie are a couple, and Fred and Cindy are kind of a couple, I think. And Tom is the odd man out. 

Todd: Yeah. 

Craig: But it turns out that. Jack has only told Carrie that the reason that they’re coming here is to do some sort of investigation. Alright, look, I would’ve told you all of this a lot earlier, but I wasn’t sure that you would come 

Clip: if you knew the whole story.

And I do need your help. Carrie, you knew about this and you didn’t tell me. Well, you know, we’re not in high school anymore. We tell, Hey, come on you guys. Come on you Canaries. 

Craig: People have been going missing here for a hundred years and the sightings and disappearances have increased in frequency and range.

So he’s brought a bunch of like random electrical equipment up here that they never do anything with. Like, no 

Todd: science. Science we don’t have time for. I 

Craig: suppose 

Todd: Jack, Jack is an asshole. Basically Jack, he’s a total asshole, led his friends to basically be bait for this monster that he seems to know.

There’s some monster something going on in there. Yeah. Later after they all get all set up and things happen, George Kennedy pops back in as like stumbling outta the woods with a shotgun and saying, you guys better go. You know? He’s the typical. Now he has become the typical Um-huh. Old man warning you away to the 

Craig: harbinger.

Yeah. Yeah. Which is 

Todd: weird 

Craig: because the Harbinger of 

Todd: Doom, who has gone from, I suppose, renting out the cabin with his daughter and then getting, you know, when his daughter got killed, he decided to set up camp Yeah. In the woods somewhere, so that, uh, he could investigate what’s going on. You would think at this point that when Jack comes out and meets George Kennedy and he tells them all this.

That he’d be like, oh, cool. You’re trying to hunt the same monster we are. We should work together. But no, he just sends him away. Back into the woods. 

Craig: Yeah. He’s just kind of a dirt bag. 

Todd: He’s Jack’s a dick in most, most of the movie, I would say. 

Craig: Yeah. And you know, the, the woods, you know, they talk about how the woods are called the demon woods, but they get there, the, the door is boarded up.

It’s so eighties, like Tom turns on his boombox that he has up on his shoulder and gets his head and they, for a, for just a like 10 seconds, they all danced to some groovy tunes. Like that was hilarious. And so at that point I’m thinking, okay. I’m in this. Right. 

Todd: I would’ve been disappointed if that had been in there how many?

Friday The 13th movies have at some point in them, in which the girls turn on the stereo. Oh. And everybody just dances around where they are for a little while. 

Craig: And there are at least a couple of those movies where there are full on dance numbers. Oh 

Todd: yeah. I feel like, like the uninvited had a spot in that too, when they were on the boat and the girls had a little party.

Remember? Yes, yes. Yeah. Just four people dancing in front of a boombox. It’s so cute.

Oh 

Craig: my goodness. 

Todd: Yeah. Yeah. The dialogue is really bad. 

Craig: Yeah, I don’t, in my notes, the dialogue that I have is, I think Cindy says there’s no wildlife up here, and I. George Kennedy says, ghosts and monsters, and even Bigfoot, you better believe it. 

Todd: There are a thousand stories about this place, but they have this awkward conversation at the table where he has to let them know 

Craig: the exposition dump, 

Todd: that he’s really brought them up here to investigate to which they at first.

Seemed like, oh, why would you do that? And then they’re all kinda like, okay, that’s fine. If that’s what we need to do, we’ll do it. Uncle Clem had disappeared and they need to find him. That’s essentially what his goal is, apparently. And they brought this listening equipment, like you said, which they don’t really do any listening.

Billy Jacoby’s character Tom, like fiddles on it for a hot second at some point, but nothing comes of that. Then there’s Tits Montage. Uh, yeah, tits Montage. Exactly. There’s a very, very lame sex scene, the one of the most awkward, lamest sex scenes I’ve ever seen. And it turns out that part of the reason for that is that actor hated her guts.

The guy who played Jack was not a fan of, uh, Carrie, so, huh. The, the actress Carrie. So, uh, he did his best to avoid touching her in any overtly sexual way. Huh. And that went on for a while. That was painful. And then you had, uh, Cindy, who pops outta the shower and 

Craig: Fred, who is her boyfriend, I believe, supposed to be, but scares her.

Yeah, I, there was, there was stuff that I didn’t understand, like he puts on that mask and he goes outside and scares her while she’s in the bathroom. She runs out and he runs back around and tries to get in, but the door is locked. Meanwhile, she. Is flirting with, and that’s not even fair to say. He starts it.

Yeah. Tom, the goofy one grabs her from behind is like, calm down, calm down, calm down. She’s only got a towel on Uhhuh. He’s actually being pretty creepy. Like he’s holding onto her and saying like, you can trust me. You can trust me. And then I feel like they sit down and they almost kiss, which is weird.

Yeah. It doesn’t make any sense. There’s no context for it. 

Todd: No. 

Craig: Especially since her boyfriend is right outside pounding on the door saying, guys, guys, there’s really something out here. There’s really something out here. And there is 

Todd: it. It’s very generous for you to call this a door, by the way. It is a giant sheet of plywood that they lean against the door opening because the real door got smashed in.

It is a literally a giant piece of plywood. I don’t know how he can’t get into this door. He should just push it and it, it should fall backwards and he should be able to get in just fine. But no, instead he succumbs to the big foot monster. He kind of offscreen, gets dragged away, doesn’t he? We don’t really see exactly what happens to 

Craig: him.

No, we don’t see any, I mean, we, we do see a big hulking shape coming up behind him, but then that’s, that’s it. Then the other couple comes back downstairs and is like, what’s going on? They’re like, uh, I don’t know. We think he’s played a joker, whatever. And they go out there and like, Nope. ’cause there’s blood everywhere.

And they’re like, oh no, something’s happening. 

Todd: And, and the truck is trashed, 

Craig: right? The truck. And so then Bigfoot, surprisingly, shockingly, is able to manage to break through that plywood. 

Todd: Yes. That was hilarious. They even attempted, it’s almost like at some point in the production they realized, wait a minute, we’re supposed to make it difficult for the monster to get in, but we already have this plywood board there.

So suddenly what appears is like, it’s like a little loop of bungee. Yeah. That only on one side, like this board didn’t have hinges. I, I still don’t understand why this little bungee loop would’ve kept that thing on, but there’s a whole to do about the monster reaching its hand through and trying to undo the bungee loop, which it does.

Craig: And he gets in. Jack shoots it once, but then he gets knocked down and anytime anybody gets knocked down on the ground, they’re unconscious for about 45 seconds. 

Todd: Yeah. 

Craig: Every 

Todd: time people get knocked out, left and right in this movie for a short period of time, 

Craig: like two, I think Jack, Jack gets knocked out probably like two or three times in this movie.

You can’t. You can’t. You can’t take that kinda head trauma. Yeah. But anyway, okay, so he gets in and Jack shoots him once, but then he gets thrown down and he’s unconscious for 30 seconds and when he wakes up, Bigfoot is holding Tom up by the head off the ground and Tom’s like, oh shit. But Jack just kind of points the gun and stares and watches this happen.

Doesn’t shoot, doesn’t shoot, and Bigfoot breaks Tom’s neck and then grabs some of their equipment that they brought and is just standing there for a while while. Carrie is screaming, shoot it, shoot it, shoot it like for 15 seconds, shoot it, shoot it, shoot it. And he’s just staring at it. Why is Tom aiming this gun at him?

I know. It’s right in front of you. You have the gun pointed at it. And I didn’t understand what happened. And then there’s a, a second where like they lock eyes and then Bigfoot turns and runs away. I had no idea what was going on. I was like, is the, like, do do the big feet have mind control powers? Right.

Because not only was he just not shooting, like he was just dead faced. Like, like it could have been a still Yeah, like he’s, I was so confused. 

Todd: Oh man. 

Craig: But now the two guys are dead, so it’s just the two girls left and Jack. Yeah, and they gotta get outta there. They wait until morning, but then they gotta get outta there.

That was fast. It was very fast. 

Todd: I thought this movie’s really moving right along, you know? ’cause like they’ve already killed off half of the cat. Usually you get your five or six people there so that you can, you know, have a lot of people to go through. But now they’re just down to one man and two women, but they’re still hanging out by the front door slash piece of plywood.

I’m like, why are you doing that? That thing could come in at any minute. And then this part puzzled me. I didn’t get it until much later. Jack gets the urge to go upstairs while the girls are sleeping. So he goes upstairs and he looks around the bedroom and then he comes down and the girls are like, wake up.

And they’re like, what’s going on? He’s like, oh, nothing. You should get some sleep. We’re gonna need to leave in the morning. And so in the morning they do just that. If there was something to that, I have no 

Craig: idea what it 

Todd: was. Oh, I figured out later. I’ll tell you in a second. So Jack and the girls walk out the door and they decide to head out and look for help.

Now, why they don’t go down the road? I have no idea. They decide instead to go up this dirt path into the woods. 

Clip: Should we just leave Tom’s body in there? Look, once we get some help, we’ll come back and we’ll take care of everything. There’s no point in going back inside though, right now. 

Craig: I thought that was a weird back and forth because what else are you going to do?

Like, do you wanna bury him? Do you wanna take him with you? I, I am not sure what this suggestion was. 

Todd: Well. What we find out later is that the, in a very laughable scene where he just up, up, up and tells them, oh, by the way, I didn’t tell you, but I found that Tom’s body was missing this morning. 

Craig: Okay, I missed that.

But it makes sense. 

Todd: That’s what him going upstairs looking for the bed thing was. But there’s no indication, like you had no idea. We never saw them drag Tom up to the bedroom. No. We never saw where he put Tom’s body. 

Craig: In fact, it seemed like, it looked like J when Jack picked up his body, it looked like he walked away from the stairs.

I thought he was taking it outside. Yeah, and this was when I, I still thought he was like in entranced by the monster. I thought he was like taking the body out there to give to the monster. It was very confusing, but at this point it becomes, don’t go into the woods. Yes. It’s exactly what it is. It, yeah.

It’s just cutting back and forth between these vignettes of different people. People up till now we’ve never met before. These two girls. Bibi and Tamby or something. And 

Todd: bi. Betsy and Tara. Yeah. 

Craig: Random jogger. Betsy and Tara. That’s what I said. Yeah, you’re close. So it keeps, now I think Betsy and Tara were in the script because boobs, but I read, I read that this random jogger, they just had to film stuff after everything was done in the woods to just get it to 90 minutes.

So 

Todd: this guy don’t have time. This jogger makes a lot of sense. 

Craig: Yeah. He has no connection to the rest of the story. Like he, he, he never encounters the actual characters of the story except for Bigfoot. Yeah. And Bigfoot chases him around for probably a good five minutes, but they cut it up into like one minute chunks back and forth.

Todd: Yeah. They killed a lot of time with that guy. Betsy and 

Craig: Tara or whatever, their scene is funny too. Well, first of all, they’re just like, you know, they’re just having fun drinking beers and driving their Jeep on narrow mountain roads and having a good time. And eventually they get to where they were trying to go.

Some spot in the forest where Betsy thought there was. Weed growing, I guess. 

Todd: Yeah. She kept saying Secret garden. I didn’t really know what the hell she was talking about. And then when she got there and it was empty and she said something about, I don’t 

Clip: get it. There was a whole qua here, plentiful patch of pleasure.

He called it, boy, it’s my brother gonna be disappointed. You told your brother about this? Well, I had to get directions from somebody, didn’t I? 

Todd: So I was like, oh, they were looking for weed. And they didn’t get it. It’s just a dirt patch. Yeah. So she just pulls her top off and Tara says, whatcha doing? They may as well get some sun as though they’re at the beach or by the lake.

They just lay down on this random dirt patch in the middle of the woods with the little picnic and everything, which I thought was cute. It turns out the place they had chosen for filming, there was supposed to be a pond, but the pond would not hold water and they couldn’t afford to line it with plastic and fill it, so they just decided to improvise.

Craig: That’s really funny. I didn’t know that at all. That is hilarious. Because what they show, like Betsy says something like, oh, the, the. Plants are already gone, or the crops are already gone. Now what they show us is a dirt patch with just like dead stuff coming up out of it. This, this does not look like someplace that has just recently been harvested of a crop, like it looks like.

No, 

Todd: no. 

Craig: And then it, it is just really funny that they’re in bathing suits. Like why would they be in bathing suits? Yeah. What were they planning? If they were just going to pick 

Todd: Yeah. Low budget filmmaking, but 

Craig: they, she takes her top off and they’re, you know, they’re just enjoying the sun with their eyes closed, talking to each other.

Todd: Oh man. And eventually the monster jumps in and scares them off and you know, Betsy gets away. We get lots of Betsy running through the, the woods with her top off until she decides it’s safe to stop and go through a lot of effort to put her shirt back on. Yeah. But then screams by looking down because the shirt’s covered with blood because, uh, her friend Tara.

Right next to her earlier had her head pulled clean off and the monster tossed it aside 

Craig: again. That was fun. Yeah. And just tossed it aside. 

Todd: I like, I, I thought it was fun. Big splatter of blood head gets pulled off. The monster definitely has his preferred modus operandi. He just likes to twist heads. And this one, he just twist a little too far.

He 

Craig: does, he, he likes to break necks a lot. He also likes to throw body parts because Yes. Now we cut back to the hiker and he just starts getting body parts thrown at him. I don’t even remember what the first one is. I don’t think that he knows what it is either. But then he just gets straight up, hit with the full severed arm.

Yeah. And then, and then Bigfoot starts chasing him. I specifically marks down at this point when Bigfoot threw the arm at the hiker that this is the halfway mark. And I’m like, where? Are we going? I know, right? 

Todd: Where is this leading? I have no clue. 

Craig: Immediately after I asked myself this question, like I, I noted and wrote down halfway mark.

The next note I have is the hiker then runs into. A zombie. Yes. We have never seen zombies before. And my, I have a question, was this supposed to be Fred? Fred? Yeah, that was Fred. The first guy that got killed. Uhhuh? I thought so, but I wasn’t sure and I couldn’t tell if it was the same actor. 

Todd: I’m going give Liz a lot of credit because she called this early.

You know, you were wondering what was the deal when, when Jack wouldn’t shoot Bigfoot and he said something like, oh, he looked familiar, whatever. 

Craig: Well, he doesn’t say that until later. Well, she said he only says that at the very end. 

Todd: No, no. He said the familiar 

Craig: part. The familiar part might 

Todd: not be exactly that, but it’s something like, there was something about him or whatever, and she was like, are people turning into Bigfoot’s?

Is that what happened to the girl? Is that what happened to Uncle Clem? And then so when Tom turns around and he looks dark, she’s like, aha. He’s in mid transformation or whatever, but Tom wanders off. Right. That’s 

Craig: so funny. The, the hiker is getting chased by a bigfoot uhhuh runs into a zombie, but the zombie’s just going about its day.

Like Yeah. He just keeps going. Does just walks right by Uhhuh and the, the, the hiker just like watches him walk away and then turns around and keeps running from Bigfoot. It’s so weird, 

Todd: Jack and the girls are wandering in through the woods and they keep finding bear traps, giant bear traps that they’re stumbling into.

And they’re like, oh, bill must have planted these. And it turns out that this was another thing where they had to save money. They couldn’t afford to dig the pits. There were supposed to be like pit traps that he had Oh. Put around there. So they decided to just substitute in bear traps. Enormous 

Craig: bear traps.

Todd: Oh my God. It’s so silly. He insists that they carry one. Uh, but they’re kind of avoiding them. The hiker fall ends up falling into one of ’em. Right. And that’s how he gets incapacitated enough for Bigfoot to stand over him and drive a stick right into his stomach and churning that up a little bit. That was kind of gruesome as well.

It’s 

Craig: pretty brutal. Yeah. I mean, I Good. I mean, if you’ve gotta insert. Footage. Footage. Yeah. Footage give us a good gory kill. Right. But I 

Todd: love how Jack who couldn’t pull the trigger to save his life inside the house is so jumpy that he whips his rifle around and shoots at any leaf movement. 

Craig: Oh my God. He is recklessly.

I couldn’t 

Todd: believe that he’s gonna get someone killed. 

Craig: Absolutely. He’s also a complete dick for Oh yeah. He. Initially takes no responsibility for getting his other friends killed. And one of the girls, I can’t remember, Cindy kind of is pissed off and calls him out on it like you did this. And he, no, I didn’t.

And he’s, it’s not my, that’s in the past. We have to move forward. I don’t know. He’s just kind of a dick about it. And then eventually, you know, he says privately to Carrie, she’s right, it is my fault. And she’s like, no, it’s not. It’s not your fault. Yes it is. Its totally your fault. Hundred 

Todd: percent your fault.

You’re peeking the truth. 

Craig: You brought them 

Todd: to their desks. 

Craig: There’s tons of bickering back and forth between him and Cindy. Like they’re just being assholes to each other. However, after that initial conflict about, oh, I can’t believe you got them killed, then they’re all just over it. Like, oh God, I can’t, I can’t wait to get home.

Like, 

Todd: yeah, there’s a weird moment too, right? Where Yes, climbing up over stuff and Jack helps Cindy up. Then they share like. A look and a mo, and I’m like, this is that. What is, that was the biggest, 

Craig: what the fuck moment to me? Like what? What is happening? Like, okay, so first of all, we’ve already had this moment where she was engaged in some kind of romantic interlude with a boy who wasn’t her boyfriend, but now this guy and she.

Seemingly didn’t like each other much to begin with, but have been going back and forth, kind of throwing barbs at one another. And then they have this moment that looks that they’re like, oh yeah,

maybe 

Todd: he does 

Craig: care about me. I wondered if it was supposed to be like reconciliation, but it didn’t feel like reconciliation. It felt either flirtatious or like heat, and it was weird. 

Todd: It was so weird and outta place. And it doesn’t go anywhere either. No. Like there, there’s nothing that develops between these two.

There’s just this weird moment and then that’s they’re, it’s done. It’s so much strangeness. Like were they just improvising some of this stuff, you know, as they went along? It’s really hard to say. It is a moment. It is a literal scene before we cut to something else. 

Craig: Yeah. 

Todd: But eventually, yeah. They find, they find Crofton again, the 

Craig: bill.

Yeah. And this is, oh God, it’s so stupid. An alarm on his watch goes off that we were drawing attention to earlier. It was Tom’s watch. And they’re like, where did you get that watch? And like, I found it by my camp. Okay. Whatever. You know, the body was missing apparently. And then Bigfoot kills the hiker here, and then Bigfoot disables a dynamite trap.

Todd: Right. 

Craig: So he is clearly smart. And then this is where I have in my notes. I think Jack tells Bill, he thought that the Bigfoot recognized him. I think that Bill asks, why didn’t you shoot? Maybe he said something about it before. But he definitely tells Bill that, and that seems to maybe Bill like has a revelation in his mind or whatever.

But Bigfoot is watching and then Betsy joins the group. So pretty much everybody is together now. Yep. And I feel like at this point things start 

Todd: moving quickly. Kind of. But this was when I was looking at my watch, I was like, God, there can’t be much more to this movie. They’ve gotta wrap this up soon.

Same. And there were 27 minutes left and I was like, oh my God, it felt so long. You know, to hear us describe it, you might think that there was so much wacky stuff happening that it was interesting. But it was, it was pretty paced out. 

Craig: Yeah. I was, especially throughout this part, I def I, I had my other monitor up and like I was going back and forth between my notes and like.

Facebook or whatever. 

Todd: Can we just address for a moment the craziness of what’s going on here? Bill Croft’s daughter gets attacked in the middle, so he camps himself out in these same woods trying to find this monster booby traps the hell out of it so that any random hiker or anybody wandering around in the woods, including perhaps him, could possibly step in a giant bear trap or trip a bomb that sets off dynamite everywhere.

Craig: Now, to be fair, to be fair, now of course this is crazy. It’s crazy to set up booby traps like this, but the hiker stuff was put in. The hiker stuff would lead you to believe much, like don’t go into the woods, that this is a heavily populated area where people are just consistently picked off, 

Todd: right? 

Craig: Take the hiker out, and you could potentially believe that this is remote and that it’s not.

You. You know what I’m saying? The hiker and the girls 

Todd: maybe. 

Craig: Well, but even the girls, if the girls are looking for a weed farm, people usually hide their weed pretty deep in the woods where a lot of people aren’t gonna be walking around. Right? Yeah. Yeah. I guess, I don’t know. Yeah, I 

Todd: was just gonna say, is that where you hide your weight?

I mean, that’s what, that’s what, that’s what movies 

Craig: will tell me. That’s what I’ve been told. I’m having a little bit of difficulty because I watched two A, I watched this movie yesterday and then I watched another movie called Abduction. No, not Abduction. What was it called? Oh man. I’ll have to look it up.

But they were both alien movies and they had some similarities. And one of the similarities in, in the other movie that I watched, they actually did stumble upon the uncle’s weed farm. And there was a, that’s no joke. It was a bunch of assholes in the woods and they did stumble on the uncle’s weed farm.

Wow. And then there were aliens. But you, this is when, so Bigfoot ambushes the camp. So tell them about that while I look up my IMDB history. 

Todd: Bigfoot is very choosy about who he decides to off. He just jumps into camp. He takes George Kennedy and smashes his, his head against a rock repeatedly until he is presumably dead.

I thought, oh God, he’s dead. I, I was surprised he knocks jack out. He swipes at the girls and I just had to assume that the girls were dead or something because, or 

Craig: knocked out. ’cause they fell 

Todd: down. Yeah, they fell. That’s right. Because all we see is is Big Bigfoot run off. And Jack wakes up. The girls are gone.

So he starts stumbling around and then he runs across Cindy, who’s also gotten demon warped. Again, Cindy’s stumbling, just like Fred was earlier looking pretty zombie-like, and walks away from him and he’s just sort of like, oh, that’s weird. And keeps going until he comes to the, he just follows her pulsing cave.

Yeah. She 

Craig: leads him to a, yeah, she leads him to a cave. It’s like, oh, she’s a zombie. Yeah. He hasn’t even seen a zombie yet. No, we have, but he hasn’t, but, but yeah, he just follows her to a cave. Yeah. Where Bigfoot’s just hanging out in the mouth of the cave and he shoots it a bunch of times. And Liz was right.

She wasn’t right about the zombies, I don’t think, but. Bigfoot is like a wear Bigfoot. 

Todd: Yeah. Would you suppose, do you suppose though that if enough time had gone on that Fred and Cindy would’ve transformed into a Bigfoot like creature? Well, I guess they would’ve transformed into something, right? I mean, there was a lot because then why did.

Why did Uncle Clem turn into a Bigfoot creature? 

Craig: Okay, I, okay. Oh, 

Todd: you can tell me this. 

Craig: I, I think I can. So he goes further into the cave and he sees all these zombies and they’re, but again, they’re not attacking him, but they’re like messing with all this electronic equipment. Like, it looks so stupid bad.

It looks stupid zombies. It, it is just dumb. Like if you’re gonna do it, like have them really doing something productive. Don’t just have them lumbering around like zombies. And then we’re supposed to believe that these zombies built a spaceship. Like they’re, they’re don’t believe it. 

Todd: It’s more like they’re picking through the junkyard is what it looks 

Craig: like.

And just discarding things. Like, it just looks stupid. Yeah. But he finds one of the guys, right? One of his friends who wasn’t dead. Wait, does he find Fred? No, he eventually does. Yes. Yeah. So I don’t think that first zombie that we saw was Fred. It couldn’t have been. Yeah, it was ’cause Fred is fine now. Uh, no.

Todd: Yeah, no, he doesn’t find Fred. Then why is he fine now? No, he finds Fred, you’re right. He is fine. No, he finds Tom later. Dude, that was Fred. That other zombie was a hundred percent Fred. I 

Craig: thought it w it couldn’t be because he’s fine Now. I know. How can he open a zombie then? And now? He’s fine. That doesn’t make any sense.

Well, was he fine though? He was like, yes, he was fine. He was all beat up. He just says, I’m all beat up inside. But everybody else is just zombies. I don’t think that was Fred. Oh, okay. I thought it was. I thought we were both right, but I don’t think it was. I think that for no explainable reason, he’s just been dragged there because all the other zombies are doing a thing and Fred tells him the girls are probably still alive because the priest wants them for Yes.

I don’t remember. 

Todd: As soon as he said that, I was like, what are we doing now? I just couldn’t believe the priest and then cut to. Yes. A priest, a priest, a sacrificial table like we are now in a Satanic ritual movie, like we’re on the set of Gies, basically. Mm-hmm. And, uh, there’s naked, was it Cindy or Carrie?

Which of the two? Two of ’em. 

Craig: Both of ‘

Todd: em. Well, no, 

Craig: not Cindy. Carrie and, oh, it’s Betsy first. Betsy 

Todd: First. It’s Betsy. Yeah. Betsy’s laid out on the table and this priest, freaky looking guy. Boobs out. Yeah, boobs out every, I mean, it’s your classic. I do love a boobs out. Sacrifice. Me too. 

Craig: It’s the classic sacrifice.

There’s just something classic 

Todd: about it. Yeah. You gotta go all in.

It’s my favorite kind of sacrifice. 

Craig: It’s, it’s, it’s one of mine too. He’s 

Todd: wearing a robe. He is got the dagger and everything, and he’s saying a bunch of mumbo jumbo and he stabs straight down in and pulls out this girl’s heart and then tosses it at this goofy ass creature in the corner. Which apparently is the Mastermind behind this whole affair.

Okay? Right. 

Craig: It’s the Lord. Sath. You see it 

Clip: as Wrath is Lord, as wrath is Lord. My master dwells within the sacred chamber. His vessel buried deep in the bowels of the earth. He eats of the flesh of the land waiting patiently, gathering his strength for a return journey to the stars. I am his faithful shepherd, his servant of the table.

My sacred dagger is raised in trembling anticipation 

Craig: as breath is Lord. Now this just occurred to me now and it’s probably not true, but is there any chance? Okay. Now maybe I’m talking myself into it. Is there any chance that that priest was the guy that we saw in the first scene? I 

Todd: think it was, yeah, I think it’s the same guy.

Craig: Okay. I didn’t know. 

Todd: Yeah, it was supposed to be a mummy. Buckler had actually created a mummy type animatronic figure for this, but they found it much easier and cheaper to just put that guy back in, uh, in robes and stuff and, and just have him do it. There as a person. He’s kind of a cool looking dude.

Like he’s been in a, a fair number of movies, a a lot actually of movies and television and he’s got a look. You know, you can tell this guy’s a character actor, you know, he’s been in some stuff, but the alien creature in the corner apparently was supposed to be a squat, tentacle invaders from Mars type of reject that they were gonna use a forced perspective shot to make it look huge.

But they ended up going another route. Their makeup guy had an existing alien mask that looked pretty okay and had like an alien hand to go with it. And they really didn’t have enough money for him to make the rest of the alien suit. So they created that like podium structure, right? And that scorpion like tail that sticks out from a hole in the bottom.

And they jerry rigged a mechanical claw on his other hand. I don’t understand. Like, it just looks like the most jerry rigged creature you can imagine. And I think scorpion like tail is. Is being kind. It’s more of like a giant scorpion like dick that’s pocket popping straight out of the podium that this thing is sitting in.

It was bizarre, man. 

Craig: It kinda looked like if you took one of the mystery science theater, 3000 robots Yes. And sprayed it with a bunch of cook, like flesh colored cook. That is an accurate, that’s kind of what it looked like. Okay. So the, there’s the, there’s the whole heart eating part and the priest is like, ah, it’s delicious.

And there will be more. Okay. Cut back to the guys just outside the chamber and Jack is like, Hey, I’ve got some dynamite. And the other guy’s like, uh, I’m a goner, but get in there and, and blow it all up. Then zombie Tom comes out now. Okay. You know, we’ve seen a bunch of zombies at this point, but zombie Tom.

Is a wise 

Todd: cracking zombie. He’s a chatterbox. Everybody else is attacking the Halloween masks. And Tom is like, Hey guys, what are you doing? Ha ha ha. Here’s what’s happening. He’s like, 

Craig: yeah. He’s like, these are my friends. Now you’re gonna, they’re nice people, Jack. You’d like ’em. And it’s weird. And then Jack shoots him.

Once and he doesn’t die. And then he shoots them in the head and I think he does. And then he starts, he realizes, I guess you need to shoot them in the head. And he, so he starts shooting zombies in the head, but he runs out of, he runs outta bullets and they drag him and the other guy in there and. Jack, I guess, kills the priest right away.

At some point, Fred gets grabbed by the creepy alien robot thing, and it takes, its what you described as its scorpion tail and stabs him in the chest. And he’s like, Ugh. But Jack kills enough of the zombies, and he freeze, Carrie. They’re gonna leave and they’re trying to get Fred to go with them. And he’s like, no, leave me here.

All detonated or whatever. And they’re like, no, come on. And he says, look at me. And he shows them his hands and they’re getting covered with hair. So. Bigfoot people and they turn into zombies. But to make a Bigfoot, you have to get stabbed with the centipede tail and injected with some goop. Oh, you are brilliant.

You 

Todd: are absolutely brilliant. And who knows why or how they choose who gets what treatment. I also don’t understand, so does that mean that this alien creature that has crashed and has to enlist all these people to put together his shoddy ass looking ship on the shoddiest looking set, you could possibly imagine, but he, he also needs to get them to go out and bring back his only food source, which is the hearts of.

Women with their tops off. Who knows? Like, like why is this whole sacrifice thing happening? Is that’s what’s kept it alive for the last, I don’t know, a hundred years or so? 

Craig: I don’t know. I, I mean, if I was gonna get philosophical about it, what I would think was, the guy that we met in the beginning was a religious fanatic.

He met this alien being who he thought was like, God, the archangel. ’cause that’s what he calls him. Oh. And so he, the thing. You know, needs to eat. And so he made human sacrifice the way that he fed it. And, and that’s giving far, far too much credit to the writers. It doesn’t matter. But there is still another, I still have another favorite part.

While Jack and Carrie are running out, they run into the Cindy Zombie. Yes. And carrie’s like, we can’t leave her. We can’t leave her. And Jack’s like, we gotta leave her. And carrie’s like, we can’t leave her. We can’t leave her. So Jack shoots Cindy in the that and, and carrie’s like, and carrie’s like, okay.

Oh, that was so funny. And then the cave explodes. The cave explodes. Yep. Which would seemingly lead to kind of the logical end of the movie, which would just be maybe Jack and and Carrie, you know, embracing as the camera sweeps around them in the desert. And they’re fine and it’s over. But no, there’s a weird, like there’s a weird new heart ending, 

Todd: right?

Where it’s like it’s all a dream. Well, I don’t know actually the way that it’s staged. I thought it could be read two different ways. It could be read. Jack Wakes up next to Cindy and he’s like, oh, that was weird. It was all a dream. But then these monsters surround him and they start to descend upon them and he screams, and then he wakes up again and he’s by himself.

And I guess the implication is that I thought actually that it wasn’t that it was all a dream. I thought that he was just so traumatized by the incident that he can’t help but continue to relive it or it keeps haunting his nightmares. That was my initial thought. 

Craig: Well, but the way that it’s shot, it’s not shot in a bedroom.

No. It’s shot on a pitch black sound stage, so that all you can see is the, and I may be giving it too much credit, but you can’t see anything around it. Yeah, it’s just the bed and them and the very sparse furniture very close to the bed, so it feels dreamlike. It doesn’t feel real. So I’m not, I’m just not sure what they were going for.

Like you said, I, I agree with you. It could be. It could be a number of things. Maybe they never really got out. 

Todd: Well, I have inside information. 

Craig: Good. 

Todd: According to the screenwriter, and I’m, I’m reading from his interview, he says in the script, I just wanted the movie to end. These people had been through an ordeal.

It was over and I wanted that to be done. No zombies popping outta bushes, no Bigfoot in the backseat as they were driving home. No alien popping out of Jack’s chest. It was just supposed to be, are you all right? And I’m glad that’s over. And then Jack and Kerry walk off into the Sunset movie. Done. 

Craig: That sounds appropriate.

Todd: Well, that was not to be our director one take. Emmett Alston allowed David and Pamela to improvise their last lines in the film, and they decided it would be funny to bicker over who got them into this mess. Like, you’re the one who wanted to go camping, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And argue as they walked outta the scene.

Okay, that’s fine if you shoot coverage of the ending the way it was written. But no, there was only one take. And they couldn’t use it and they couldn’t go back to the location to reshoot and they couldn’t dub over their dialogue. It was all crap. So I had to come up with something to wrap it all up. Yes, the, it was all a dream as a bad cliche, but that was not meant to be the meaning of that scene.

It was not that the whole proceeding story was just to dream, but that Jack was reliving it in his dreams. I probably didn’t make that clear in the dialogue, but Jack does say, I can’t stop thinking about Tom and Cindy and what happened. Yeah. And then. To be clever. I tossed in two more, waking up from a nightmare bits.

At least I tried. He says, uh, the whole thing kind of balances out the movie. They have three beginnings, the preacher, the cabin with George and his daughter and the kids in the car. So we have three waking up from a dream endings as well.

Alright. Yeah. Okay. This happens, it happens in filmmaking. I didn’t think it was too terrible. I just thought, ugh. It was a bit of unnecessary. But you know, that’s also not uncommon for movie, right? We’ve got the Friday the 13th jump scares. We’ve got the Phantasm jump scare at the end. We’ve got so many movies kind of do a final little jump scare that feels like it was a dream or we’re not quite sure where it’s going.

Or maybe it’s setting, Liz thought they were setting it up for a sequel now, you know, they just, he just wrote something new because they had to, ’cause they couldn’t use what they shot 

Craig: and that’s fine. You know, I, I just. I wanna reiterate about this movie that I don’t think it’s bad. Really. I, I think that there’s a, I think there’s a big, I, I don’t, I don’t think it’s that bad.

I think that there’s Well, I mean, for what it is you mean? For what it is? Yeah. I don’t wanna steer people away from it. In fact, I would steer people too toward it. It’s entertaining in a goofy eighties kind of way. Yes. And when it goes off the rails at the end, it’s stupid. But it’s fun. I wish that they had leaned more into that.

I wish that they had gotten to it more quickly. I would’ve been fine with this movie if it had been 78 minutes or whatever. I, I am fine with it as is. It’s just is kind of a pedestrian bigfoot movie that you’re not really seeing anything you’ve never seen before. I mean, I like the design of the creature.

I like that, you know, its face has some articulation to it and it looks pretty good. And the practical effects of the kills look pretty good. It’s just very strangely paced. You know, two of them, no three main characters get killed off in like the first 10 minutes. Yeah. And then we go walk in the woods for an hour.

Yeah. And then it go with Bigfoot, just kind of walking around and randomly killing people every once in a while, mostly just twisting their necks or ripping their heads off, which looks good. I am, I mean, practical effects. I’m a big, huge fan of I and I, I appreciated them and thought it looked good, and then it gets to the wacky stuff.

And the wacky stuff is crazy, but it’s fun and I enjoyed it. So I, I get it. I, I don’t even know if there’s a cult following for this, but I feel like there should be, I feel like more people should have seen this movie, you said when we first started talking about it, that you had seen it pop up in different things.

I watch all those things, you know, all the hundred, you know, the top 100 list. All of these things. I don’t recall ever having seen anything about this before. Yeah. It’s like it just appeared out of the ether and even just Billy Jane is enough for me. Right. But I really think a lot of our viewers, especially our viewers, and I know there are a lot of you who, uh, really appreciate the more obscure things that we watch.

I think that you will be delighted by this. It’s not a great movie, but I think that you’ll have a lot of fun with it. 

Todd: Yeah. If you’re not tired, you know, if you’re wide awake and you’re especially watching it with other people, so you can just laugh at the goofiness of it, then you’ll definitely enjoy it.

If you’re into these kind of movies, you know, if you’re with people who don’t really have a tolerance for this kind of goofiness, basically, as somebody who’s not really a diehard horror fan who doesn’t watch this stuff on a regular basis, you know, then, then maybe they would wanna turn it off. But, uh, especially after the first hour, I honestly think the movie is.

A good lesson in the importance of foreshadowing when you tell a story, you know, like you said earlier, you kind of need to know where this is going and to have a lot of just stumbling around in the woods with these random monster kills and then some really random shit thrown in. Every now and then, you don’t really get any sense of what’s happening until the last, you know, 15 minutes.

You get impatient with the story. But it’s goofy, man. It’s just like one of the goofiest, low budget horror films I’ve ever seen. And I echo everything that you said. I would definitely steer horror fans towards it. I wouldn’t ask my mom to watch this. 

Craig: No, no, no. But if you could gather even just a few friends who enjoy, you know, who are big horror fans, if you’re fortunate enough to have that circle, this would be a great thing to watch with.

Other people. Yeah. ’cause you could laugh together and you could talk during most of it and really not miss a whole lot. And when things, you know, when a kill is coming up and Bigfoot’s prowling around, then you could pay attention. When it gets to the end and it’s getting crazy, then you can maybe pay more attention, but you’re not setting yourself up well for it.

If you’re sitting with your significant. Other who’s not a huge fan or you’re sitting in front of it alone. Yeah. In front of your laptop. Like, these are not the best environments to view this in. If, if possible, try to watch it with somebody else who will appreciate it with you. I think you and I would’ve had so much fun watching this together.

Todd: Oh yeah. We 

Craig: should. I think that we would’ve laughed and laughed and laughed. Yes. 

Todd: I totally agree. Well, it was certainly fun talking about, that’s for sure. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for joining us. Uh, we hope that you can track down Demon Warp Yourself. Like we said, go to YouTube. The copies aren’t great that are out there, but if you Google it, you’ll find something out there.

Hopefully the thing will get a DVD release at some point, but right now all we have is the magic of who managed to rip it off their VHS tape and upload it on the internet. And that’s good enough. You know, that’s how we watched these movies back in the eighties. Yeah. So, uh, there you go. If you have seen Demon Warp and you want to share some, uh, thoughts about it, you can just find us online at our website, chainsaw horror.com.

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