DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST. Producer Robby West fills in for John today.

Today we discuss:

• The ICE agent who shot Minneapolis resident Renee Good to death in her car has set off a confrontation between the federal government and local law enforcement. Protests heat up and major questions about ICE tactics and training arise as the weekend begins and ICE shoots two more people in Portland.

• Oil executives head to the White House to discuss looting Venezuela’s oil. Major companies want taxpayers to guarantee they’ll be compensated if their risks head south. Meanwhile, Russia is being accused of spreading propaganda about US imperialism.

• Gavin Newsom is pre-running for President.

• Trump says he’s only constrained by his own morality. Is that enough? 61% of Americans say they want America to be a moral leader. 39% say it is.

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Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST.

Today we discuss:

• Trump’s plan to run the Venezuelan government via coercion and threat of force is turning the acting post-coup government paranoid. Will this powder keg explode into civil war? Meanwhile, Bruce Fein joins Nicolás Maduro’s legal defense team. Will Trump’s continuing recognition of the Venezuelan government validate Maduro’s claim to be a POW?

• Abruptly changing course, Trump invites Colombian President Gustavo Petro to the White House. Can Petro trust Trump not to arrest him too?

• Trump pulls the US out of a key climate treaty and dozens of others.

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Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST.

Today we discuss:

• Under a 1951 agreement, the US can “construct, install, maintain, and operate” military bases across Greenland, “house personnel” and “control landings, takeoffs, anchorages, moorings, movements, and operation of ships, aircraft, and waterborne craft.” Will Trump exploit it to seize the island?

• Trump says Venezuela will send 30 to 50 million barrels of oil — about two months’ worth of production — worth between $1.8 and $3 billion to the US. It is unclear if it would receive anything in return. Meanwhile, Russia has deployed a submarine and other vessels to escort an oil tanker — which is also being pursued by US forces — across the Atlantic.

• Aldrich Ames, the counterintelligence officer for the CIA who spied for the Soviet Union and later Russia, has died at age 84. The 31-year veteran is believed to have compromised more than 100 intelligence operations and sent a number of Soviet agents to their deaths or prison, as he traded information for large sums of money that funded his lavish lifestyle.

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Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST.

Today we discuss:

• America’s Coup Against Venezuela: The UN Security Council and many nations, including US allies, criticize Trump for overthrowing and kidnapping President Nicolás Maduro, and Trump threatens a second military attack unless Acting President Delcy Rodriguez collaborates with the US to expel Cubans and Iranians, cracking down on drugs, and ceasing oil sales to US adversaries. Venezuela braces for economic collapse. Oh, and Canada is worried about the effect on its oil industry. Maduro calls himself a POW.

• Cuba in Trouble: Venezuelan oil supplies likely to be cut off, but neither Mexico nor Russia is inclined to fill the gap. Will the US intervene militarily in a country likely to resist?

• Trump Targets Poor Kids: HHS to cut off Minnesota, New York, California, Illinois and Colorado—Democratic states—from $7 billion for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families.

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Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST.

Today we discuss the ultimate holiday weekend media dump: the overthrow of a sovereign head of state of a country most voters can’t find on a map.

• Regime change against Venezuela: President Maduro kidnapped, VP less compliant than Trump hoped, Trump says he wants to steal the nation’s oil. Will the UN, Congress, Europe or the Democrats prove less useless than usual? John and Ted explain what’s happening and predict what’s next.

• Never too many new wars: Trump threatens to attack Greenland, Colombia, Cuba, Mexico and Iran. Which threats are real? Will Congress insist on its war powers, or impeach the president?

• AI psyops are go: Images of Maduro in custody and of Venezuelans celebrating in the street have been debunked as fake, but does it matter? Oh, and Russia is jealous of Trump’s “special military operation.”

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Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST.

Special TWO-HOUR SHOW! Starting 10 AM EST, we’re taking your voice calls. Tune in early for a full explanation for how to talk to Ted and John LIVE.

Today we discuss:

• Happy New Year! Millions of Americans now have no health insurance, thanks to bipartisan Congressional inaction.

• Taking a page from Trump, new NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani hits the ground running with leftie rhetoric and an unapologetically liberal agenda. Gone is the Adams’ Administration’s IHRA’s right-wing definition of anti-Semitism. He will also speed up public and private housing construction.

• Swiss ski resort fire kills about 40 people. A “flashfuire” is blamed.

• Venezuela’s president says he’s open to a deal. Meanwhile, the Pentagon blew up 3 more “drug boats”—and left survivors floating in the ocean.

Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST.

Special TWO-HOUR SHOW! Starting 10 AM EST, we're taking your voice calls. Tune in early for a full explanation for how to talk to Ted and John LIVE.

Today we discuss:

• Israel blocks 37 aid groups from Gaza. How much worse will the misery get? Will the world care?

• Trump bombed 7 countries in 2025: Somalia, Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Venezuela, Syria and Nigeria.

• US border agents are searching travelers’ phones and other electronic devices at a record rate.

• Zohran Mamdani becomes Mayor of New York tonight.

Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST.

Special TWO-HOUR SHOW! Starting 10 AM EST, we're taking your voice calls. Tune in early for a full explanation for how to talk to Ted and John LIVE.

Today we discuss:

• The U.S. has been operating for the past 5 years under the assumption that China is preparing to invade Taiwan as soon as 2027. China is conducting military drills that encircle the island of Taiwan, demonstrating its ability to blockade.

• Trump bombed a shipping dock, probably in Venezuela, where “they load drugs.” Looks like the drugs are marijuana.

• Medicaid can share patient data with ICE, judge rules.

• Protests in Iran over inflation and the collapse of the rial

Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST.

Special TWO-HOUR SHOW! Starting 10 AM EST, we're taking your voice calls. Tune in early for a full explanation for how to talk to Ted and John LIVE.

Today we discuss:

• Switzerland’s army chief says his nation can’t defend itself against a Russian invasion, calls for a massive boost in military spending. Are the Russians really coming?

• A recent power outage crippled Waymo’s San Francisco fleet. Emergency vehicles would have been stuck behind them in an earthquake. Are UAVs ready for prime time?

• Israel recognizes Somaliland. The EU is angry at Israel.

• Trump slashes the US contribution to UN humanitarian aid.

Political cartoonist Ted Rall and CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST.

Special TWO-HOUR SHOW! Starting 10 AM EST, we're taking your voice calls. Tune in early for a full explanation for how to talk to Ted and John LIVE.

Today we discuss:

• The Trump Administration plans to hold more than 80,000 immigrant detainees at a time. Migrants would be booked into processing sites for a few weeks before being funneled into one of 7 warehouses holding 5,000 to 10,000 people each, where they would be staged for deportation.

• The U.S. bombed an ISIS camp in northwest Nigeria to protect Nigerian Christians.

• Zelensky and Trump about to meet. Also, Zelensky wishes for Putin to perish.