From learning to understand the pain points for designer/developer collaboration, to what can make or break the success of a startup, to where the future of DesignOps is heading, we talk to Jerome de Lafargue, co-founder and CEO at zeroheight about how to build a DesignOps company.

From establishing what signs to look out for, to what to do when deprioritisation happens and how to mitigate it from happening again, we talk to Laura Kennedy, lead designer on design systems at GoodRx about the deprioritisation of design systems

From community-driven design process improvements to the world of plugins and the future of design tools, we talk to Rogie King, Designer Advocate at Figma about the power of community.

From the idea of documentation as a knowledge graph, to optimizing an original model of the web to create a more powerful documentation system, we talk to Chase McCoy from Stripe about the future of design system documentation.

Introducing DesignOps Island Discs, the new podcast from zeroheight, where we talk to the best folks in DesignOps from around the world to find out what it takes to have a successful DesignOps function in your org.

From how a lead differs when you're working with systems, to the role of product management in DS teams, to the need to standardise the things we work on, we talk to Henrique Gusso about how you build an effective Design Systems team.

From building systems that support inclusivity to figuring out how your organisation wants to contribute to the importance of strong principles, we talk to Amy Hupe, content designer and design systems expert, around how you build an effective contribution model for your Design System.

From the importance of situating your design team within your company correctly to why design is still reaching maturity, we talk to Peter Merholz, author, consultant and design leader, on what good org design looks like for your design org.

From proving out your processes to personality types to mining internal talent, for episode three, we dock on the West Coast of the US to talk to Meredith Black, co-founder of DesignOps Assembly and co-author of the DesignOps Handbook, about what makes a good DesignOps hire.

From actually talking to people, to measuring the success of a DesignOps function, to the big learnings you can surface, for the second episode of DesignOps Island Discs, we set sail for Toronto to talk to Harjot Bal, Senior Manager of DesignOps and Design Systems at Appnovation, about running a DesignOps Audit within your org.