From defining DesignOps, to how it's changed, to the misconceptions that people have about it, for the first episode of DesignOps Island Discs, we set sail for the east coast of the US to talk to Dave Malouf, designer, author, educator and design leader.

Introducing DesignOps Island Discs, the new podcast from zeroheight, where we talk to the best folks in DesignOps from around the world to find out what it takes to have a successful DesignOps function in your org. Season one guests include the likes of Dave Malouf, Meredith Black, Harjot Bal and more.