Father Joe Laramie, SJ, joined Patrick for a conversation about our relationship to created goods. Topics included: Father Joe's ministry, The Pope's Prayer Network (2:37), what is detachment about (3:20), indifference to created goods (11:06), caller: I have worked to be detached from alcohol (19:06), freedom and giving goods up (20:55), how do I detach myself from stuff? (29:58), caller: the daily rosary helps me (36:17), created goods (41:19), and simplicity of life (45:21).