This recording of a live discussion of the Toronto Philosophy, Calgary Philosophy, and Online Rebels Meetup groups occurred on February 14, 2021. We continued our discussion of two weeks earlier by reviewing the logical construction of the intelligent universe from 28(a) to 33(d). Then we began to explore the shape of the physical universe that is observable by intelligence, bearing in mind as Timaeus suggests at 50(d) “three types of things: that which comes to be, that in which it comes to be, and that after which the thing coming to be is modeled, and which is the source of its coming to be.”