Digging Deeper Podcast - Perimeter Church

Suffering can leave us searching for words—and wondering how to hold on to hope when life still hurts. In this episode of Digging Deeper: The Hope of What’s to Come, Jeff Norris and Laura Story Elvington welcome back theologian and author Kelly Kapic to explore how lament helps us bring our whole selves to God. Drawing from his family’s experience with chronic pain and his coauthored book, When the Journey Hurts, Kelly shares how grief and gratitude can coexist, why God welcomes our honest prayers, and how Christ’s resurrection assures us that suffering will not have the final word.

What does it mean to be ready for Jesus’ return—and how can that hope shape the way we live today? In episode two of The Hope of What’s to Come, Jeff Norris and Laura Story Elvington welcome Dr. Dan Doriani for an approachable conversation about the end times. Together, they explore different views of Christ’s return, why faithful Christians sometimes disagree, and how Revelation offers encouragement even when its imagery feels overwhelming. Dan points us toward the promises believers share and the everyday opportunities to live with purpose, love others well, and trust the One who holds the future.

We begin a new series focused on end-times teaching, The Hope of What's to Come. In this first episode, Jeff Norris and Laura Story Elvington are joined by Dr. Bryan Chapell, president of Unlimited Grace Media and director of the Christ-Centered Preaching Institute at Metro Atlanta Seminary.

This conversation centers on what Scripture actually says about Christ’s return, why Christians should approach the topic with hope instead of fear, and how to avoid the extremes of date-setting and apathy. Listen as they highlight the value of careful, unified biblical thinking on eschatology, especially when Christians disagree on timelines but agree on the essentials. The goal is not speculation, but confidence that Jesus will return, evil will not win, and suffering is not the final chapter.

In this special bonus episode of Digging Deeper, Jeff Norris and Laura Story Elvington sit down with trauma counselor and author Beth Broom for a compassionate conversation about parenting through pain and suffering. Drawing from both professional experience and her own personal story, Beth shares how parents can help children process grief, trauma, and difficult seasons while building a strong biblical foundation before life’s storms arrive.

Together, they explore how suffering shapes our understanding of God, the importance of healthy community, and practical ways parents can keep the door open for honest conversations with their children. This episode offers hope for parents navigating hard circumstances and reminds listeners that God meets us in suffering with comfort, wisdom, and grace.

In this episode, Jeff Norris and Laura Story Elvington reflect on the most impactful lessons from their conversations with guests throughout the season. From shaping our children’s hearts over chasing performance to modeling faith, managing anxiety, and embracing grace in our failures, this wrap-up brings together the core themes every parent needs to hear.

Whether you’re in the early years or navigating adult children, this episode reminds us that God is at work in both our children and in us.

In this episode, Jeff Norris and Laura Story Elvington sit down with Tim Elmore to explore the unique challenges of parenting Generation Z. Together, they unpack why relationships matter more than rules, how emotional intelligence shapes meaningful conversations, and what it looks like to shift from supervising your kids to guiding them as they grow into adulthood. Tim offers practical, encouraging insight to help parents navigate generational differences and build lasting connection with their children—especially in the transition to adulthood.

About Today's Guest:

Dr. Tim Elmore is a bestselling author, keynote speaker, and founder of Growing Leaders, a nonprofit developing the next generation of leaders worldwide. With 40+ years of experience, 35+ books, and audiences in 50 countries, he's one of today's leading voices on generational diversity and young professionals in the workplace. His work has been featured in Forbes, The Wall Street Journal, and on CNN and Fox Business.

In this episode of Digging Deeper, Jeff Norris and Laura Story Elvington sit down with Chris Ammen—children’s pastor, author, and founder of Kaleidoscope—to explore what it really means to disciple your children at home.

Chris reframes discipleship as joining God in the work He is already doing in your child’s life—freeing parents from pressure and inviting them into everyday, grace-filled moments of intentionality.

With practical wisdom and honest encouragement, this conversation reminds parents that faith formation doesn’t require perfection, but presence, humility, and a willingness to start small.

In this episode of Digging Deeper, Laura Story Elvington and guest host Jimmy Kim are joined by Dr. Gary Chapman to explore how the five love languages shape not only marriages, but also the way we parent our children.

Dr. Chapman shares how every child has an “emotional love tank” and how understanding your child’s primary love language can lead to deeper connection and emotional health.

With practical insights and gospel-centered encouragement, this conversation equips parents to love their children more intentionally—and reminds us that learning to love well is a lifelong journey.

Anxiety is rising in both kids and parents—but how can families respond with wisdom, not fear? In this episode of Digging Deeper, Jeff Norris and Laura Story Elvington are joined by authors Sissy Goff and David Thomas to discuss the root causes of childhood anxiety, the impact of technology and over-information, and how parents can unintentionally reinforce anxious patterns.

With practical strategies and gospel-centered encouragement, this conversation equips you to raise resilient, emotionally healthy kids—and reminds you that it’s never too late to grow as a parent.

In this episode of Digging Deeper, Jeff Norris and Laura Story Elvington are joined by digital wellness expert Joey Odom to talk about parenting in a world shaped by smartphones and constant digital connection. Joey shares how our phones are affecting our attention, relationships, and families, while also offering hope that we are not destined for failure when it comes to digital boundaries. This conversation helps parents think about modeling healthy technology habits, creating intentional environments for family connection, and using technology wisely rather than letting it control our lives.