In this episode of Digging Deeper, the teaching team, Jeff, Caleb, and Bob, conclude their series on Exodus and dig deeper in chapters 16-20 as well as themes found in and around the 10 commandments. Jeff and the guys talk about the correlation between the 10 commandments and what Paul writes about in Galatians and how we as believers can look at the Law through the lens of a Heavenly Father who loves, cares and wants the best for His children. Check out episode notes at perimeter.org/DD-E15-notes.

Jeff Norris, Caleb Click, and Bob Cargo wrap up their study of Exodus, focusing on chapters 16–20 and the Ten Commandments. They explore how God's law, viewed through the lens of grace, reveals the heart of a loving Father who desires our flourishing.

Quotes:

“I have just sensed the Lord asking me many times over in my preparation to teach through this, ‘Jeff, do you love me? Because if you do, it's gonna be evident.’” — Jeff Norris

“The law doesn't create the relationship. The law is given to govern it.” — Caleb Click

“The law helps me understand what a flourishing life in Christ looks like because it shows me the heart of God.” — Jeff Norris

Related Resources:

Listen to the Exodus sermon series (part two, 2021) at perimeter.org/sermons

Book: "The Whole Christ" by Sinclair Ferguson

As we continue our Sunday morning study through the Book of Exodus, Jeff Norris sits down with Caleb Click and Bob Cargo to dig a little deeper into Chapters 16 and 17. They talk through what God has taught them through their own personal study and preparation for this series, but also discuss the beautiful display of the great story of redemption God is telling throughout the whole Bible, from Genesis to Revelation. We see the theme that is not just about Exodus and the Israelites going into the wilderness after they crossed the Red Sea, but the wilderness theme throughout the entire Bible.

Big Takeaway: Life itself is wilderness and even more it’s filled with subsequent wildernesses, but in our wilderness there is a Savior that not only saves but nourishes us as he leads us into the Promise Land.

Application Questions:

- It’s not a matter of will God lead me into the wilderness, but what does my faith look like in the wilderness?

- Why is it that we find ourselves longing for realities of life pre-redemption?

Check out episode notes at perimeter.org/DD-E14-notes.

Life is filled with wilderness seasons, but in the midst of them, Jesus not only saves—He nourishes.

Jeff Norris, Caleb Click, and Bob Cargo dig into Exodus 16–17, exploring how the wilderness theme runs throughout Scripture—not just for the Israelites, but for us. They discuss the biblical understanding of wilderness as a metaphor for life’s struggles, the role of suffering in spiritual growth, and the importance of faith during challenging times. While life may feel like a wilderness, it is also a journey towards redemption and hope through Christ. Listen to the Exodus sermon series (part two, 2021) at perimeter.org/sermons.

Quotes:

"The book of Exodus is just this beautiful microcosm of the greater story of redemption that God is telling for the whole Bible from Genesis to Revelation." — Jeff Norris

"The wilderness is the place where we discover the full depth of our weakness, but also the sufficiency of God and His supply in Jesus Christ." — Caleb Click

"It makes me think of the promises of the 23rd Psalm, that our Shepherd is going to be with us through all these things. The 23rd Psalm does not paint the picture of rosy circumstances all the time. The sheep have to be led to the quiet waters and the green pastures, and they still go through the valley of the shadow of death. But our shepherd is with us, and that's the comfort." — Bob Cargo

"Sometimes suffering has to come so that we would become people who actually desire heaven and trust the Lord in the midst of those trying times." — Caleb Click

In this second part of Jeff and Caleb’s discussion with Travis and Jimmy, the conversation continues with some specific realities the word of God teaches us about the new heavens and new earth.

Check out episode notes at perimeter.org/DD-E13-notes.

Jeff Norris and Caleb Click continue their conversation with Travis Vaughn, executive director of Metro Atlanta Collective, and Jimmy Agan, senior pastor of Intown Community Church, diving deeper into what Scripture reveals about the new heavens and new earth—a future where we will see Jesus face to face.

They discuss the nature of resurrected bodies, the continuity of work and culture, and the expansive vision of God's redemptive plan. This episode invites listeners to imagine the future reality promised in scripture and its impact on our present lives and evangelism.

Quotes:

"What if part of eternity in the new heavens and earth is exploring all of the universe, not just earth? We have eternity, right?" — Jeff Norris

"Our work's going to continue, but it's going to be renewed. It's going to be without sin." — Travis Vaughn

"All those 'notes' are going to like each other because Jesus serves as the tuning fork that brings together the symphony of God's redemptive work." — Caleb Click

Related Resources:

Listen to the "Heaven" sermon series at perimeter.org/sermons

Book: "Far As the Curse is Found" by Michael Williams

Book: "The Bible and the Future" by Anthony Hoekema

Book: "Heaven is a Place on Earth" by Michael Whitmer

In this latest episode of the Digging Deeper podcast, Jeff Norris and Caleb Click sit down with Metro Atlanta Collective Executive Director, Travis Vaughn, and Senior Pastor of Intown Community Church, Jimmy Agan to continue digging into the topic of heaven. The guys unpack what Scripture reveals to us about the new heavens and the new earth, when Christ returns and renews all things for who are in Him.

Big Takeaway:

Jesus has already experienced everything we will in the New Heavens and the New Earth and when looking to eternity, we should keep our eyes fixed on Him. The New Heavens and the New Earth can be described as the best of all after experiencing "better" walking with Jesus here on Earth, best in sharing in Heaven with seeing Jesus face to face and best when Jesus returns and we experience the New Heavens and the New Earth.

Application Questions:

How does thinking of Heaven quicken my heart, engage my imagination and stir affection and longing for the reality of what is to come both in the better that to be with the Lord, which is better by far, but even in the best, the New Heavens, the New Earth?

How might this be giving you some new paradigms and new categories to think in, but ultimately getting us back to that reality that it's all about Jesus. How has this conversation stirred more anticipation, longing and affection for Jesus?

Check out episode notes at perimeter.org/DD-E12-notes.

Jesus has gone before us, and we live in anticipation of all things made new. In this continuing discussion about heaven, Jeff Norris and Caleb Click are joined by Travis Vaughn, executive director of Metro Atlanta Collective, and Jimmy Agan, senior pastor of Intown Community Church. They delve into the theological implications of renewal versus replacement, the continuity of creation, and the ultimate hope found in Christ.

This discussion challenges common misconceptions and encourages listeners to deepen their understanding of eternal life and the glory of God.

Quotes:

"If we want to see our future, we see it already in what Jesus has experienced on the third day." — Jimmy Agan

"God's intention doesn't change from Genesis 1 to Revelation 22." — Caleb Click

"How does thinking of heaven quicken my heart? How does this engage my imagination and stir affection and longing for the reality of what's to come?" — Jeff Norris

Related Resources:

Listen to the "Heaven" sermon series at perimeter.org/sermons

Book: "Far As The Curse Is Found" by Michael D. Williams

Book: "The Bible and the Future" by Anthony Hoekema

Join us in this episode of Digging Deeper as we explore profound questions about heaven, the afterlife, and the mysteries of Sheol. Hosted by Jeff Norris, with insights from Caleb Click and Eric Ryan, we delve into theological perspectives, scriptural interpretations, and personal reflections. Whether you're curious about the intermediate state or the ultimate hope of heaven, this discussion offers thoughtful insights and encourages deeper understanding. Ultimately, heaven is not just a place but the presence of Jesus.

Quotes:

"Heaven isn't so much about a place where our longings are satisfied, but it's primarily about a person in whom all of our longings are satisfied." — Jeff Norris

"Contemplation, understanding, and enjoyment of God make up the essence of our future blessedness." — Caleb Click

"The gospel gets us to God, not a place." — Eric Ryan

Related Resources:

Listen to the "Heaven" sermon series at perimeter.org/sermons

Book: "He Descended to the Dead" by Matthew Emerson

Book: "The Drama of Scripture: Finding Our Place in the Biblical Story" by Michael Goheen and Craig Bartholomew

In this episode, we are Digging Deeper into the topic of heaven. Listen in as Jeff Norris, Caleb Click, and Eric Ryan talk through questions like: Can our loved ones see us in heaven? Are they aware of what's happening on Earth? And, what might they be thinking about in heaven?

We will also discuss what all the references to a place called sheol in the Old Testament are talking about? And, what we make of popular books on the afterlife.

Big Takeaway:

Scripture may be silent on some of the details about heaven, but the focal point of heaven is clear. Heaven isn’t so much about a place where all our longings are satisfied but rather, it’s primarily about a Person in whom all our longings are satisfied.

Do you long for heaven?

Is your hope for heaven set on being in the presence of Jesus?

What’s the reality of heaven and what misconceptions might you have to let go of?

Are you resting in the assurance of heaven?

Check out episode notes at perimeter.org/DD-11-Notes.