Our guest in this episode was the recipient of the National and South Australian 2021 emerging architect prize, Dino Vrynios. Dino is an architect and director of Das Studio based in South Australia, founded by his wife and business partner, Sara Horstmann, in 2018. In this interview, Dino shares his experience travelling overseas via the Jack Hobbs McConnel Travel Fellowship, how Dino's trip informed his decision to start the modular construction consultancy MDLR, and how travelling was a clear milestone in Dino's career that clarified what he wanted in his career. This interview is conducted by Renata Gabara, an EmAGN representative based in South Australia.