Happy Thursday! Natalie and Sara thought they were sitting down to talk Kris Jenner’s birthday party, RHOSLC, and Dancing with the Stars… but instead, a “quick chat” turned into a 45-minute deep dive on parenting.

Sometimes you just need to vent to your a friend about the chaos, the guilt, the roles, and the reality of it all. So today’s episode asks the real question: Is having a default parent… normal? (And is anyone doing it “right”?)

It’s honest, funny, a little chaotic — and very real.

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