But What Do the Kids Think?According to our guest today, divorce is a monster under kids beds. In her ongoing film project, Ellen Bruno is putting kids’ voices first, hearing how a group of young people view divorce over the long arch of their young lives. The 2013 film Split: The Early Years introduces us to 12 kids adapting to divorce in their families. This year, we catch up with those same kids after a decade’s passed in Split Up: The Teen Years as they reflect on how their lives have been marked by divorce.
We have a wonderful conversation with Ellen about what she’s learned from these kids over the last decade, and interesting perspectives gained from them. We talk about the value of learning to be vulnerable and keep your communication open with your ex in order to better provide a positive environment for your kids. We chat about what children of divorce have to learn in order to take care of themselves. We also wonder what it would take to have more judges and jurisdictions make these films required viewing. 
Plus we have a listener question asking about the meme-ification within the divorce industry and how that may affect those going through it. 
Links & Notes

• Split Film and the Split Outreach Project
• Ellen on LinkedIn
• Split Film on Instagram and Facebook
• An Interview with Ellen in Medium: 5 Things You Need to Know to Survive and Thrive During & After A Divorce
• Schedule a consult with Seth
• Got a question you want to ask on the show? Click here!

• (00:00) - Welcome to How to Split a Toaster
• (00:26) - Meet Ellen Bruno
• (01:18) - The Split Outreach Project
• (04:23) - Wisdom From Kids
• (07:32) - The Unknown Unspeakable
• (09:33) - Having Check-Ins
• (12:34) - From a Place of Love
• (13:47) - Follow-Up Conversations
• (17:41) - Reaction from Parents
• (19:43) - Vulnerability and Communication
• (22:53) - How Kids Take Care of Themselves
• (25:53) - Different Kids in Different Environments
• (29:23) - Give Them Space
• (30:55) - What's Next?
• (32:50) - Parenting Is Hard
• (34:10) - The Future of the Kids
• (35:18) - How We Behave Teaches Them How to Behave
• (36:19) - Why to Watch These Films
• (39:27) - Socials
• (39:50) - Sponsor: Soberlink
• (42:11) - Listener Question
• (48:03) - Wrap Up