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Patrick Drake is a chef, entrepreneur, and former Clifford Chance lawyer who traded corporate law for professional kitchens. He worked at Heston Blumenthal’s The Fat Duck and co-hosted a cooking series picked up by National Geographic. His career change began in secret: helping chefs in his law firm’s kitchen at lunchtime and working in London restaurants after leaving the office.

In this episode of Divot with Derek Andersen, Patrick explores why a career that looks successful can still feel wrong. He shares how he turned an unlikely ambition into practical steps, why he stopped talking about his plans, and the brief pitch that opened a door at The Fat Duck. The conversation challenges the pressure to live up to other people’s expectations—and asks what it takes to choose your own direction.

When a fire destroyed his home, Patrick faced a different challenge: accepting help. He opens up about vulnerability, fatherhood, and the morning pages practice that helps him untangle his thoughts. A man who had told himself “no one’s coming to rescue me” began to rethink what it meant to be self-reliant. His measure of success became the community around him and the people who show up when life gets hard.

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Timestamps:
02:21 — Leaving Corporate Law to Become a TV Chef
05:43 — When Talking About Your Plans Replaces Taking Action
10:53 — The Cooking Show Pilot That Went Nowhere
15:05 — Building a New Career Before Quitting the Old One
19:32 — The Pitch That Opened Heston Blumenthal’s Kitchen
22:50 — How a YouTube Video Led to a Television Series
25:51 — What The Fat Duck Taught Him About Excellence
29:40 — The House Fire That Changed His Definition of Success
35:03 — Why Asking for Help Was His Hardest Lesson
39:29 — When to Keep Pushing—and When to Walk Away
42:12 — How Morning Pages Help Him Untangle His Thoughts
44:55 — Fatherhood, Friendship, and a New Measure of Success

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Robert and Richard Rizk co-founded Blackbox AI with their brother Roger, taking a coding search engine into enterprise AI infrastructure. The engineers are tackling a problem bigger than model intelligence: how to make AI affordable without giving up control of sensitive data. Their approach combines open-weight models, encrypted inference, and more efficient use of NVIDIA GPUs at scale.

In this episode with Derek Andersen, the brothers explain why the cheapest AI endpoint can carry risks beyond its price, how hosting changes the privacy equation for DeepSeek, and why open-weight models can coexist with OpenAI. They also break down the difference between zero data retention and encryption, and how generating more tokens from the same GPU could unlock wider AI adoption throughout the enterprise.

The conversation goes deeper than technology. Robert and Richard reveal how three brothers turn trust and disagreement into an advantage, why Navy SEAL discipline inspires their culture, and how they approach problems others avoid. Their lesson for founders: choose work worth doing, then tackle the hardest parts one step at a time.

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Timestamps:
01:05 — AI Inference: Why More Tokens per GPU Matter
04:08 — Open vs. Closed AI: Why Businesses Want Both
09:54 — DeepSeek and Data Privacy: Where Your AI Runs Matters
18:43 — Encrypted AI vs. Zero Data Retention: What’s the Difference?
25:40 — NVIDIA GPUs: Lowering AI Costs Without Adding Hardware
31:06 — Why Smarter Models Still Need Better Infrastructure
38:01 — Three Brothers, One Company: The Blackbox Origin Story
43:14 — How Trust and Disagreement Help Founders Move Faster
47:00 — The Navy SEAL Mindset Behind Blackbox’s Culture
01:01:28 — Overcoming Hard Problems: One Decision at a Time

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Ivan Burazin is the co-founder and CEO of Daytona, the AI infrastructure company building computers for AI agents. His 16-person engineering team rebuilt its product with a radical rule: no manually written code. With engineers directing up to 15 agents at once, he offers a firsthand look at the future of software development, where human judgment matters more than typing every line.

In this episode with Derek Andersen, Ivan makes a bold case: the next software revolution will be built for agents, not humans. He explains why SaaS could become infrastructure, how AI agents explore multiple paths in parallel, and why GPU access can become a financing problem. His challenge to startup founders: look beyond adding a chatbot and rethink who your software is built to serve.

The conversation goes deeper than technology. Ivan explores why AI could widen inequality, why founders delay hard decisions, and why human relationships still matter. From his repeated failures to his gratitude for family, he shares a different measure of success. It is not about feeling happy every day, but about ending it content that you did something difficult, meaningful, and worth the effort.

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Episode Partners:
Google for Startups
If you’re building a company, join Google Cloud and the DeepMind team on November 4 and 5 for a briefing on Gemini 4 Argon, exploring what it could make possible for your business and how to start building with it. Includes live Q&A. Register your interest at https://goo.gle/gemini4_briefing

Timestamps:
01:49 — AI Agents vs. Chatbots: What’s the Difference?
06:09 — Why Daytona’s Engineers Stopped Writing Code
11:49 — How Many AI Agents Can One Person Manage?
18:22 — Inside Daytona: Giving AI Agents a Computer
21:07 — The AI “Multiverse”: Testing Multiple Paths at Once
23:45 — Why AI Infrastructure Needs Split-Second Speed
26:25 — Build for AI Agents, Not Just Humans
28:43 — Salesforce and the Future of SaaS
34:59 — Inside the GPU Wars: The Cost of Scaling AI
45:04 — AI’s Biggest Risk? The Widening Divide
49:10 — Why Ivan Moved to San Francisco for AI
56:49 — Hard Decisions, Resilience, and Defining Success

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Aditya Agarwal helped build early Facebook and scaled Dropbox’s engineering team from 25 to 1,000. The former Dropbox CTO is now a General Partner at South Park Commons, a venture firm with $2 billion in assets under management whose portfolio includes Baseten, valued at $13 billion in June 2026. His career spans the rise of social media, cloud software, and now artificial intelligence.

In this episode with Derek Andersen, Aditya makes a bold case: the superintelligence era is already here. He explains why AI is reshaping software engineering, recalls a 15-second AI diagnosis he estimates would have taken him hours, and reveals why coding alone is no longer enough. As Big Tech builds the infrastructure, he sees an extraordinary opening for small teams with ambitious ideas.

The conversation goes deeper than technology. Aditya challenges founders to stop following predictable paths and give their biggest ideas room to grow. From early Facebook to the lessons of building startups, he explores curiosity, patience, and the courage to begin without every answer. His message is a challenge to every builder: don’t let what you’ve already achieved limit what you dare to attempt next.

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Episode Partners:
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Timestamps:
06:27 — From Oracle to Facebook: Betting on the Unknown
17:23 — Why Contrarian Startup Ideas Face Rejection
18:58 — South Park Commons: Finding What’s Worth Building
29:41 — AI Is Changing the Value of Coding
33:15 — The 15-Second AI Diagnosis That Surprised a CTO
37:15 — Why the AI Revolution Is Still Early
39:43 — Why He Believes Superintelligence Is Already Here
40:39 — Can Small AI Startups Compete With Big Tech?
42:08 — AI Safety: Can We Really Slow Down?
45:26 — Imposter Syndrome: Learning Beats Knowing
46:37 — Beyond Success: What Actually Matters

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Steve Young is a Pro Football Hall of Fame quarterback, two-time NFL MVP, and Super Bowl MVP who threw six touchdown passes to lead the San Francisco 49ers to victory in Super Bowl XXIX. From eighth on BYU’s quarterback depth chart to the NFL’s biggest stage, he built a career under extraordinary pressure. His book, The Law of Love, explores what success means beyond the scoreboard.

In this episode with Derek Andersen, Steve reveals what Bill Walsh understood about building winning teams: talent and strategy need trust, love, and accountability. He explains why great players struggle in broken cultures, how chasing credit damages relationships, and why facing hard things helped him grow. He also shares his father’s blunt response when he wanted to quit BYU.

The conversation goes deeper than football. Steve admits he spent much of his life believing worry was the price of success, and explains why he is now questioning that belief. Through his reflections on faith, selfless love, and the fear of failure, a different measure of greatness emerges: the healing you bring to others, and the person you become when there is no credit to claim.

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Timestamps:
06:59 — Why Great Players Lose in Broken Cultures
10:29 — Bill Walsh’s Formula for Building Winning Teams
19:31 — Staying Grounded Through Fame, Money, and Power
24:03 — Why Steve Young Almost Quit BYU
31:07 — The Law of Love: Caring Without Keeping Score
38:41 — Practicing Selfless Love When Patience Runs Out
47:45 — The Childhood Failure That Taught Him Resilience
50:17 — Why Fear of Failure Isn’t the Price of Success
54:37 — The Legacy Steve Young Values More Than Trophies
1:00:06 — Facing Hard Things: Why Steve Young Chooses to Lean In

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Astro Teller is the entrepreneur, AI scientist, and Captain of Moonshots who has led X, Alphabet’s moonshot factory, for more than 15 years. Under his leadership, X helped incubate Google Brain, Waymo, Wing, and Verily, breakthroughs spanning artificial intelligence, autonomous driving, drone delivery, and precision health. In 2026, Waymo alone raised $16 billion at a $126 billion valuation.

In this episode with Derek Andersen, Astro explains how X makes radical innovation repeatable. Teams brainstorm deliberately terrible ideas to unlock creativity, pursue opportunities with only a 1% chance of success, and attack the hardest assumptions before wasting years on comfortable progress. The goal is not to win every bet. It is to build an intellectually honest process that consistently turns uncertainty into learning.

The conversation goes deeper into why innovators must detach identity from outcomes. Astro reveals when to kill a promising project, how Loon’s shutdown created the “moonshot compost” that became Taara, and why the ideas nobody cares about today may become technologies everyone chases in 15 years. His challenge to leaders is radical: reward intelligent failure, stop confusing progress with learning, and become a card counter of innovation.

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Episode Partners:
Google for Startups
If you’re building applications with generative media or considering it, Google just released a brand-new technical guide. You can download it at https://goo.gle/genmediaguide

Timestamps:
02:03 — Why Bad Ideas Unlock Breakthrough Creativity
08:55 — Why Great Innovators Ignore What Everyone Is Chasing
12:30 — The Card Counter Strategy for Intelligent Failure
16:21 — When to Kill a Project, and When to Keep Going
23:23 — Your Technology Works. But Does It Matter?
26:14 — How Waymo’s First 1,000-Mile Moonshot Began
29:55 — “Be Yourself on Purpose”: Astro’s Leadership Rule
35:10 — How Project Loon’s Failure Created Taara
41:05 — The $1 Million vs. $1 Billion Innovation Test
43:59 — Why Google X Intentionally Underfunds Moonshots
52:58 — Why Winning Is Not Necessarily Good

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#AstroTeller #GoogleX #XTheMoonshotFactory #RadicalInnovation #MoonshotThinking #IntelligentFailure #InnovationStrategy #BreakthroughInnovation #Leadership #Creativity #Waymo #GoogleBrain #Entrepreneurship #FounderMindset #DivotPodcast

Zachery Dereniowski, better known as MDMotivator, left medical school after the pandemic, a devastating breakup, a torn ACL, and crushing isolation pushed him to the lowest point of his life. Today, his videos about kindness, mental health, and human connection reach more than 50 million followers, have generated over 40 billion impressions, and helped raise more than $5 million for strangers.

In this episode with Derek Andersen, Zachery reveals how two strangers saved his life by sitting with him in the rain for 30 minutes, why he walked away from medicine to hug strangers on the street, and how those encounters became a global movement. He explains why people with the least often give the most and why being seen can matter more than money.

The conversation goes deeper than viral generosity. Zachery explains why it can feel “selfish to be selfless,” why millions of apparently strong men are suffering silently, and why unprecedented digital connection has left us profoundly alone. His message is both urgent and practical: call your family, listen closely, show more love, and never underestimate the life-changing power of one small act of kindness.

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Kindness / Nonprofit:
Zach is currently raising funds to support his ongoing givebacks through his nonprofit, and we’d love to include this link in the episode description/resources: https://slingshot.giving/kindness

Contact:
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Episode Partners:
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Timestamps:
003:22 — Medical School, Isolation, and His Darkest Night
06:50 — The 30 Minutes in the Rain That Saved His Life
07:22 — From Blindfolded Hugs to a Global Movement
10:51 — Why Men Hide Their Mental Health Struggles
12:59 — The Selfish Reason Kindness Feels So Good
19:01 — “I’m Not the Kind Person”: MDMotivator’s Real Mission
25:15 — Victor and Queen: The Kindness That Raised $1 Million
37:48 — What the Happiest People Understand About Life
41:32 — Why Zachery Tells Every Stranger “I Love You”
46:29 — The Micro-Goal Method Zachery Uses for Depression
49:39 — The Loneliness Paradox: More Connected, More Alone
52:00 — How $100 Became a Multimillion-Dollar Kindness Machine
59:14 — The Hardest Lesson: You Are Already Enough
1:03:04 — The Legacy He Wants: Alive, Valued, and Loved
1:07:18 — How One Viewer Turned Inspiration Into Real-World Kindness

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Eric Ries created the Lean Startup methodology and wrote "The Lean Startup," a New York Times bestseller that has sold more than a million copies in over 30 languages, teaching a generation of founders the MVP and build, measure, learn. He later founded the Long Term Stock Exchange, an SEC-approved exchange that has raised over $170 million, and just published his newest bestseller, "Incorruptible."

In this episode with Derek Andersen, Eric explains why "Lean Startup" has held up in the AI era, why AI has made building software nearly free while learning what customers truly need remains the real bottleneck, and why founders chasing AI-generated demos are skipping the customer validation that actually determines survival. "The learn step," he says, "has always been the rate-limiting step."

The conversation goes deeper into "Incorruptible," Eric's new book on why good companies get taken over, gutted, and hollowed out once their founders lose control. He reveals the sentence hidden in nearly every corporate charter that legally forces companies to maximize shareholder value over mission, and lays out the purpose, coherence, and integrity every founder needs to build something that lasts.

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Episode Partners:
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Timestamps:
02:05 — Why "Build, Measure, Learn" Still Wins in the AI Era
04:18 — The One Thing AI Still Can't Speed Up: Learning
05:57 — Why Software Is Getting More Expensive, Not Less
10:01 — Why Talking to Customers Is Still the Rate-Limiting Skill
13:20 — What "Incorruptible" Actually Means
19:21 — The Sentence Hidden in Every Corporate Charter
20:52 — Would You Sell to the Company You Hate Most?
25:33 — How the Credo Collapsed Into a Cover-Up
28:13 — The Tylenol Recall That Built a Century of Trust
30:36 — The Blueprint: Purpose, Coherence, Integrity
31:41 — What a Public Benefit Corporation Actually Does
34:10 — Anthropic's Mission Guardian and the Companies That Copied It
42:57 — How Eric Ries Measures His Own Life

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Blaine Anderson is the Shark Tank dating coach for men who built Dating by Blaine from a COVID-forced career pivot into a company with 7,000 clients and over 1 million followers. She accepted Mark Cuban's $100,000 offer on stage and became the first credible female voice on social media telling men the truth about what is actually going wrong in their dating lives.

In this episode with Derek Andersen, Blaine breaks down why the most accomplished men often have the worst dating lives, and what it costs them. She explains why dating apps are designed to keep you searching rather than matched, how the checklist approach to first dates kills attraction before it starts, and the real reason high-achieving men get ghosted after dates that felt genuinely great.

The conversation goes deeper than dating tips. Blaine argues that the real problem is a life built without room for another person, career optimized, routine locked in, checklist assembled, and no understanding of why that approach fails in relationships. The episode leaves you with something harder to ignore than any tactic: what you are building right now either makes love possible or makes it harder.

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Episode Partners:
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Timestamps:
03:43 – Why Fewer People Are Getting Married Than Ever Before
05:44 – Why Dating Apps Are Making Commitment Harder
12:14 – "I Felt Like He Was Interviewing Me"
14:18 – The Real Reason She Disappeared After a Great Date
15:47 – What a First Date Is Actually For
23:22 – How to Approach a Woman You Don't Know
31:38 – Why "Nice Guys" Actually Finish Last
34:41 – The Investment Areas Framework
36:21 – Why You're Texting Yourself Out of Dates
39:23 – The Uber Text That Went Viral
49:43 – The Age Men and Women Should Start Taking Dating Seriously
54:44 – Why Building the Perfect Life First Backfires
1:02:28 – The Pretzel Bar That Ended a Date Before It Started
1:08:20 – What Nobody Tells You About Pitching on Shark Tank
1:10:39 – The Failure That Accidentally Built Her Company
1:18:04 – One Idea She'd Implant in Everyone on Earth

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Daniel Kottke met Steve Jobs at Reed College in 1972, traveled with him to India, and spent the summer of 1976 hand-assembling the very first Apple computers in the Jobs family garage in Cupertino, for $3 an hour. He was among Apple's earliest employees, hand-wired the Macintosh prototypes, and left his signature cast inside every original Mac ever made. Apple is now worth $5 trillion.

In this episode with Derek Andersen, Daniel reveals what Steve Jobs was really like before Apple: the India trip, Steve's unexplained three-day disappearance in the Himalayas, and the private spiritual life behind the man. He walks through the Apple IPO stock option situation, why Steve, as head of the compensation committee, refused to discuss it, and how Steve Wozniak later quietly made it right.

The conversation goes deeper than Apple's mythology. Daniel reflects on what it means to be present at the birth of something historic and still leave without the rewards others received, and how a lifetime of curiosity became a richer kind of wealth than any stock certificate. "Luck often shows up wearing overalls, looking like hard work."

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Episode Partners:
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If you’re building applications with generative media or considering it, Google just released a brand-new technical guide. You can download it at https://goo.gle/genmediaguide

Timestamps:
00:01:58 — How Daniel Kottke First Met Steve Jobs
00:06:33 — Why Steve Jobs Kept Everything Secret
00:10:05 — The India Trip That Shaped Steve Jobs
00:17:07 — Why Steve Jobs Spent $1,000 on Primal Therapy
00:21:36 — Lost in Delhi: Steve Had Shaved His Head
00:23:55 — Steve Left for Three Days and Never Said Where
00:27:18 — Inside the Apple Garage in Summer 1976
00:29:15 — Who Really Worked in the Apple Garage
00:32:25 — How Wozniak Built Two Computers Simultaneously
00:38:10 — The Homebrew Club and Apple's First $25,000 Sale
00:45:28 — Why Steve Jobs Refused to Discuss His Stock
00:49:22 — How Wozniak Gave What Steve Jobs Never Would
00:55:25 — What Daniel Would Tell Every Young Founder

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