In this deeply honest and joy-filled episode of Choosing Joy, host Deborah Joy Winans Williams welcomes actress, producer, and mother Ryan Michelle Bathé for a soul-nourishing conversation about embracing the chaos of life without apology. From navigating marriage with fellow actor Sterling K. Brown to building a life rooted in faith, humor, and resilience, Ryan opens up about the lessons, missteps, and mantras that keep her grounded.

Together, they unpack what it means to redefine womanhood, honor your emotional bandwidth, and build a home full of love—even when your champagne flutes are mismatched. Ryan shares vulnerable reflections on aging, self-care, parenting through exhaustion, and finding joy in a world that rarely slows down. With warmth, wisdom, and a whole lot of laughter, this episode is a celebration of imperfection, intention, and unapologetic Black womanhood.

If you've ever felt the weight of being everything for everyone, or struggled to feel safe in your own skin, this one’s for you.

Chapter Markers

00:00 – Building a Life of Joy
03:00 – Australia, Motherhood & God's Surprises
06:00 – 19 Years of Marriage & Unpredictable Careers
09:00 – Faith, Stubbornness & Acting as a Calling
12:00 – Hollywood Rejection & Learning to Stay
15:00 – Parenting & Losing Yourself in the Process
18:00 – Perimenopause, Health, and Black Women Aging
21:00 – Family, Fear & Avoiding the Doctor
24:00 – Illness, ALS, and Loving Through Change
27:00 – Alzheimer’s, Caregiving & Choosing Joy Daily
30:00 – You Don’t Have to Get Through it Pretty
33:00 – Marriage Realizations & Letting Go of Perfection
36:00 – Church Culture, Legacy & Beautiful Homes
39:00 – Broken Glass & Emotional Meltdowns
42:00 – Stewardship, Provision & Taking Care of What God Gives
44:00 – Growing With Your Partner & Listening Deeply
47:00 – Community, Evolution & Loving the Present
49:00 – One Word She Wants Her Sons to Remember

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How do you balance being a wife, mom of four, content creator, comedian, and actress — all while keeping your joy?

In this hilarious and heartfelt episode of Choosing Joy, host Deborah Joy Winans Williams sits down with her friend That Chick Angel (Angel Laketa Moore) for a conversation about motherhood, marriage, faith, and the unexpected journey from actress to content creator.

Angel opens up about pivoting her career when she became pregnant, building a digital brand, raising four Black boys with her husband Marcus, and how outrageous faith has guided her through every season. From funny pregnancy stories to the challenges of communication in marriage to finding joy in serving others, this episode is both laugh-out-loud and deeply inspiring.

💜 “When I can’t see the way forward, I serve.” — That Chick Angel

If you need encouragement, laughter, and a reminder that joy is always within reach, this conversation is for you.

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Mike Hill and Ephraim Salam delve into the topic of navigating loss. They share personal experiences of grief, emphasizing the importance of expressing emotions and seeking therapy. The conversation highlights coping mechanisms, the role of timing in life changes, and finding positivity amidst loss. The hosts encourage listeners to embrace their feelings, seek support, and understand that loss can lead to unexpected opportunities and growth.

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Mike Hill and Ephraim Salam engage in a heartfelt conversation with actress and influencer Apryl Jones about her journey of transformation. They discuss the impact of grief, personal growth, and the challenges of navigating relationships in the public eye. Apryl shares her experiences with alcohol, the importance of self-care, and the power of setting boundaries. The conversation also touches on the realities of being in the entertainment industry, particularly the misleading nature of reality TV, and the significance of being true to oneself. The episode concludes with reflections on personal relationships and aspirations for the future.

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Grammy nominated singer, actress, and producer Lisa Yaro shares her journey from Nigeria to the United States, her passion for entertainment, and the importance of faith in overcoming life's challenges. She discusses the impact of social media on mental health, the significance of staying true to one's purpose, and the lessons learned from personal struggles. Lisa emphasizes the need for resilience, self-discovery, and the power of community support in navigating life's ups and downs. Check out her new single "Mahogany" on all platforms Watch Done There, Been That Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIpZbm-QVsFn7zeLKbx02cKfs8ZzU1cnw

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Innovative artist and creator of the iconic 'flyboy' masterpiece Hebru Brantley joins Mike Hill and Ephraim Salaam for an engaging interview about the essence of art, self-expression, and the journey of an artist. They explore the struggles and triumphs of pursuing a creative career, the importance of work ethic, and the balance between personal life and professional success. Hebru shares his experiences about growing up in Chicago and navigating doubts to pursue an art career, the impact of family, and the lessons he aims to pass on to future generations.

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In this episode of the Done There, Been That podcast, co-hosts Mike Hill and Ephraim Salaam engage in a conversation with actor Omar Dorsey. Omar explains his journey in the entertainment industry, the challenges of typecasting, and the dynamics of marriage and fatherhood in Hollywood. Omar shares personal anecdotes about his upbringing, his acting career, and the importance of setting boundaries in relationships. The guys also talk about the significance of resilience in the face of life's challenges and the value of personal growth.



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On this episode of the Done There Been There podcast, co-hosts Mike Hill and Ephraim Salaam engage with Quincy Isaiah, who plays Magic Johnson in the HBO series 'Winning Time: The Rise of The Lakers Dynasty.' They discuss Quincy's journey to landing the role, the importance of mental health in navigating fame, and the pressures of acting. Quincy shares insights on transitioning from football to acting and the lessons learned along the way, emphasizing the significance of therapy and personal growth.



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In this engaging conversation, the Mike Hill and Ephraim Salaam are joined by actor Jordan L. Jones. They discuss the journey of navigating different worlds, particularly in the context of acting and personal growth.

They delve into Jordan's audition process for Bel-air, the reboot of 'The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. They explore the challenges and surprises Jordan faced as he took on the role of Jazz. The discussion also touches on character development, audience reception, and the ethical dilemmas presented in relationships, providing a reflective perspective on the complexities of life and art.

Mike reflects on the complexities of relationships in the entertainment industry. The group discusses personal growth through challenging environments, and the importance of staying true to oneself. Jordan and Ephraim share experiences from their upbringing in Englewood, California.

The guys speak on the challenges of code-switching in different social settings. The discussion also highlights the significance of respect for all roles in the industry and the joy of working with good people, emphasizing that true success comes from passion and authenticity.

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In this enlightening episode of the Done There, Been That podcast, host Mike Hill and co-host Ephraim Salaam engage in a heartfelt conversation with Grammy, Soul Train, and 8x Image Award nominated Soul Singer - Actor, MAJOR.

They explore themes of hope, authenticity, and the challenges of navigating the music industry. MAJOR. shares his personal journey, emphasizing the importance of collaboration, the struggle against conformity, and the power of community and therapy in maintaining one's true self.

MAJOR. speaks about the making of his hit song "Why I Love You". The discussion highlights the evolving landscape of music and the significance of staying true to one's artistic vision amidst external pressures

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