On today’s episode of Hear Me Out: housing the nation. 

We have an affordable housing problem — and an affordability problem, period, but that’s another show. 

When we talk about solutions to homelessness and cost burden for renters and homeowners alike, many progressives lean toward government intervention… because capitalism seems to have failed us. But has it, really? Or is for-profit development the surprising answer to affordable housing?

Jon McMillan of TF Cornerstone – and author of a chapter in Housing The Nation – joins us.

If you have thoughts you want to share, or an idea for a topic we should tackle, you can email the show: hearmeout@slate.com

Podcast production by Maura Currie.

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