Were COVID lockdowns a catastrophic policy failure or a necessary response to a genuine threat? Professor Gigi Foster, economist at the University of New South Wales and one of Australia's most prominent lockdown critics, joins Dr Joe to deliver a frank, evidence-based verdict six years on.
In this episode, Gigi unpacks the economics of mass panic, explains why governments made increasingly irrational decisions in the face of fear, and reveals why most academic economists went along with the crowd, silencing the very trade-off analysis that could have saved lives. Drawing on her internationally recognised work, including her paper 'Hiding the Elephant', she argues that narrow hyper-specialisation, political incentives, and social media driven fear created a perfect storm of poor policymaking.
The conversation also turns to Sweden's approach, the Great Barrington Declaration, the psychology of not admitting mistakes and looking forward. Gigi's new book on Western Australian secession: a bold blueprint for reimagining health, education, and democratic accountability.
Prof. Gigi Foster's new book - https://www.secessionwabook.shop/
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Chapters:
(00:00) Introduction & Welcome
(01:00) Who is Gigi Foster
(05:30) Human Behaviour & Trade-Offs
(08:45) The Cult of Safety & Why Risk Aversion Harms Society
(10:30) COVID as a Moral Panic: Historical Parallels
(11:45) The ICL Model That Triggered Global Lockdowns (Neil Ferguson)
(18:30) The Great Barrington Declaration & Censorship of Dissent
(21:15) Why Sweden Got It Right
(24:30) Will We Learn?
(28:45) Over-Specialisation & the Loss of Holistic Thinking in Policy
(33:30) The WA Secession Book
(43:00) Final Takeaways: Join Australians for Science and Freedom
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