Dr Joelle Grogan is a legal academic, and an expert in the rule of law, working in the fields of EU and UK public law. She's also the presenter of BBC Radio 4's The Law Show.

At a time when the Rule of Law seems to have become more of a Gentle Suggestion of Law, when the leader of the free world is a convicted felon, we thought it was a good idea to get the biggest legal brain we know on the podcast to chat about everything legal.

If intense serious legal discussion isn't your thing - don't worry the next episode is a Superbowl preview. Don't say we don't offer variety here!

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