On today's podcast, I want to take a look at a couple of much talked about issues when it comes to the COVID-19 pandemic at this point in time--the diagnostic testing (both PCR and antibody, or serology testing) and the death rates associated with the viral illness.

I am joined today with friend of the show and the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP), Michael Osterholm, PhD, MPH.