Today we bring you Tobin Miller Shearer, Professor of History and Director of the African American Studies Program at the University of Montana. We recorded this conversation in early May, before the murder of George Floyd and associated demonstrations. That conversation covers several important topics, including anti-racism, race as a biological and social construction, and the reasons why UM is the perhaps unlikely home to such a strong African American Studies program. Tobin also speaks eloquently and passionately about his journey as a white man in this space.

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