On this episode of Stop It, Zach is joined by Jesse from the band Narcotic Self to talk all things metal, music, and the strange paths that lead people into creative careers.

The two dive into Jesse’s new music video “Brought Back to Life,” the influence of bands like Alice in Chains, Pantera, and Nirvana, and what it’s like balancing a demanding day job while building a music career. Along the way they get sidetracked debating the best pizza and burgers in Omaha, roasting terrible horror movies (including a particularly awful Dracula remake), and reminiscing about growing up in the 90s when alternative culture actually scared parents.

Plus: bad skiing stories, turkey wars in Nebraska fields, and why metal culture still feels like one of the last true countercultures.

Check out Narcotic Self’s new video “Brought Back to Life” on YouTube and follow the band for more music and upcoming releases.

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