The dust has settled somewhat after the surprise announcement that Mark Drakeford is standing down as First Minister and Welsh Labour Leader. Joining Felicity and James to discuss what, why and who's next is Political Lecturer Dr Jac Larner from Cardiff University and BBC Wales' Political Editor Gareth Lewis. They also reflect on the legacy of Mark Drakeford and what the future of Welsh Labour will look like without him at the helm. Julie Morgan, one the FM's Deputy Ministers and long term friends, and Carwyn Jones, former First Minister for Wales, look back at his time in office.