We weren't sure how to react to The Hornet draw away at Forest but Jon, Mike and Colin discuss the match and try to find answers to the consistent away record - as in not that impressive and what effect the returning crowd will have at Vicarage Road, on Saturday.

And, as we always do these midweek pods, the Athletic's Watford correspondent, Adam Leventhal talks us through his recent work including a conversation with recently departed Adrian Mariappa and we find out a bit more about Joao Pedro's early(er) years in Brazil.

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