🎙️ Diving back into the gerrymandering / redistricting wars and the so-called "war on democracy." Is it a real war or political hyperbole? Corey unpacks recent redistricting efforts in Texas and California, confronts ethical and legal questions, and most importantly, discusses how we talk about these issues — especially when we disagree.

From institutional norms to California’s independent redistricting commission, we'll look at a nuanced, principled stance while challenging the increasingly combative political discourse. This episode is a rallying cry for more respectful, informed, and constructive conversations. ☕🗣️

[00:00:00] – Hyperbolic intros & the “war” framing

[00:01:00] – Texas redistricting: legal, ethical, wise?

[00:05:00] – Comparing Texas to California’s independent commission

[00:07:00] – Is it gerrymandering or “dummymandering”?

[00:10:00] – Corey’s personal impact from redistricting lines

[00:12:00] – CalExit? Exploring state-level autonomy

[00:15:00] – What makes responses democratic vs. anti-democratic

[00:17:00] – Instead of war: How about winning votes?

[00:18:00] – Latinx & language: When messaging backfires

[00:21:00] – Listener pushback: From “coward” to “wet noodle”

[00:26:00] – Political warfare and dehumanizing rhetoric

[00:30:00] – The danger of escalating political language

[00:32:00] – What Corey is willing to risk for peace and democracy

[00:33:00] – Final thoughts: Talk politics with gentleness and respect

Legal ≠ Ethical ≠ Wise: Just because something is legal, like Texas’ mid-decade redistricting, doesn’t mean it’s ethical or wise.

Independent commissions work: California's model, while imperfect, supports representative democracy and reduces partisan gerrymandering.

Respectful discourse is essential: Hyperbolic rhetoric (“war,” “enemies,” “fascists”) hinders progress and dehumanizes fellow citizens.

Real change comes from persuasion: Winning hearts, minds, and votes is more sustainable than retaliatory political tactics.

Corey’s core belief: Anti-democratic actions shouldn't be met with more anti-democratic responses.

“If everything's an existential threat, nothing's an existential threat.”

“We need to be able to talk to our neighbors, talk to our friends, talk to our loved ones that happen to feel differently about this issue.”

“You want to be right, or do you want to win?”

“I am betting on conversations — at coffee shops, over drinks, at soccer games — to preserve our democracy.”

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